shims... what a friggin' pain!

Dave Daniels dwaynedaniels at
Fri Aug 24 13:34:07 PDT 2007

Don French can give you more insight into the ZZR method as he just finished doing that last week.

blackgpz at wrote:  I use the same method Dave D. uses, hold the shim on the side with a 
pencil magnet and press it in the cup with a small tipped screwdriver.

I think you're in for some more fun when you get to the ZZR. I think 
they went to the shim under bucket design on that engine which means 
you get to pull the cams out. Better get it right the first time or the 
cams come out again. Just when you thought it couldn't get any 


----- Original Message -----
From: 1KPerDay <1kperday at>
Date: Friday, August 24, 2007 11:28 am
Subject: shims... what a friggin' pain!
To: Message an GPZ List 

> Grrrrr.... I was up until midnight trying to get the right shims
> swapped on the SheePz... suckers are a royal PITA to get back in,
> particularly in the outside valves on cyls 1 and 4. I've tried gluing
> them to my finger with grease to help, but it seems 98% of the 
> time I
> can sort of get them in the general location with my finger but they
> never slip right into the cup... the tolerances are so close that it
> has to be EXACTLY parallel and I end up having to tap on it with a
> screwdriver for 5 minutes (and pick it up with a magnetic tool 5
> times) before I get it back in.
> Then when I DO get it back in, I re-check and the clearance is out of
> spec range@!#!@#!@#$!@#$!#$!@!!@! RRRRGGAASGASDGAGGG!!!
> I've done this twice before and I don't remember it being that
> difficult. Have I lost my touch?
> Of course the first couple of times I only had to swap 3 shims or
> so... this time about 10 were tight and one was loose.
> I expected this as the last check a bunch were on the tight side of
> spec, but still... very frustrating. I finally had to just give up and
> go to bed because I was pissed off and covered with grease (and 
> not in
> a good way).
> Any sure-fire tips to getting the shims back in? I was thinking of
> trying grease on a tongue depressor or something.
> And I have to do this for the ZZR soon also... which is more
> inaccessible and the cyl head is tilted forward...
> Maybe I should get a Harley again. LOL No valve checks, no chain
> maintenance. (.....waiting for it..... :D )
> -- 
> Utah Jeff
> '96 SheePz1100

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