Starting Problem

schnowz schnowz at
Tue Nov 18 15:33:53 PST 2008

    I'll second everything Steve said.
   I recently had the hot hard starting problem and so I replaced the 
battery (2.5 years old). In the past that cured it. but this time it made 
cold starting easier, but I still had the hot start problem. I replaced the 
plugs and cleaned all the connectors under the tank especially the igniter 
coil pickup and so far it's been good. The old plugs looked to be in good 
shape with 19,000 miles on them, but a couple of months back I had a problem 
with oil getting on them from the figure 8 gasket leaking at the valve 
cover. I cleaned them up good with a sandblaster and they looked good, but a 
couple of months later I had the hot start problem. I noticed the porcelin 
had brown marks on it next to the metal as though the corona from the spark 
had burned it. I think oil penetrated between the porcelin and the metal and 
created a arc path. Well at least that's my theory and I'm sticking to it.
    By the way, they were Nippon Denso's and I decided to go back to NGK's 
which were $6 a piece and in stock at the local Avanced Auto store.

     Pete S

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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 13:17:25 +0000
> From: <blackgpz at>
> Subject: Re: Starting Problem
> To: gpzlist at, Les Johnson <jjohnsonlta at>
> Message-ID: <20081118131726.C49AQ.55074.root at hrndva-web05-z02>
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> Our GPZ's are particularly sensitive to battery and spark plug condition. 
> My experience has been once a plug is fouled it must be replaced. Trying 
> to clean it doesn't work in the GPZ. My experience has also been that when 
> the battery is on the way out, it will have enough juice to crank the 
> engine but it won't fire. Sounds exactly like your problem. You'll spend 
> (waste) a lot of time checking everything in the ignition circuit, only to 
> find a new battery cured the problem. I was one of them. After days of 
> work, I installed a new battery and viola! I replace the battery every 
> other year as a routine maintenance item and except for occasionally 
> having to cycle the ignition switch, I've had no electrical problems of 
> any kind since. YMMV and good luck.
> Steve
> ---- Les Johnson <jjohnsonlta at> wrote:
>>    Well I did post a warm starting problem which has turned into a cold 
>> one
>> now. Went to start this morning and after cranking on and off for a 
>> minute
>> it just made a loud backfire. Tried again one last time but no go. Turns
>> over fine but won't start. I have noticed since I purchased the bike that 
>> I
>> have to put the chock on not all the way. It won't hardly fire or run 
>> with
>> the chock on full. I move it off a bit then it will start fine. Now that
>> bwon't work cause it won't start period.  Any ideas on how to proceed?
>>     Les J.
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