What a difference...

john leonard jlmdx at hotmail.com
Fri Dec 11 12:51:44 PST 2009

Hi Bill,

No, they didn't give me any paperwork or parts back.  Just a bill with a grand total.

I don't know if they realized it at the time, but the dealer (Suzuki, Kawasaki, Honda) likely cost themselves the sale of Suzuki gsx1250FA or 1250s Bandit thanks to their repair team.  
They told me to come back in the spring and they *might* have word on whether the 1250FA will arrive here in the States.  If not, they could put a fairing in a 1250s bandit and sell me that.

But the way the GPZ is running now, I'm not needing anything.

best, john

> From: wkdenton at verizon.net
> To: gpzlist at micapeak.com
> Subject: Re: What a difference...
> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:15:57 -0500
> Hi John,
> Sounds like just a valve adjustment (valve lash).  A true "valve job" 
> requires removal of the cylinder head and a heck of a lot more than 4 hrs 
> labor.
> On a 4,000 mile used bike, the statement that "the valves were just 
> maintained" leaves a lot of room for interpretation.  On one hand, it could 
> mean that the 10,000km (6250mile) valve adjustment was done early, and 
> recently, at 4k miles.  My experience tells me that this is unlikely.  No 
> one does (expensive) maintenance early, especially if they are selling 
> something.
> On the other hand, "just maintained" could truly mean nothing more than the 
> fact that all "scheduled maintenance" was up to date.  In the case of a used 
> bike w/ 4,000 miles, this would mean that the valves were adjusted at the 
> 800km (500mile) interval, but had not yet been adjusted at the 10,000km 
> (6250mile) interval, since the bike did not have that many miles on it yet. 
> If this were the case, your 18,000 mile valve adjustment would have been 
> almost 3 full intervals overdue (6250, 12,500, 18750).  If that's the case, 
> its no wonder that the mechanic said that your values were way off. 
> Frankly, you're lucky that you didn't burn any valves.
> Just out of curiosity, did they record the before and after clearance values 
> and give them to you with the bill?  They should have.  Also, how many shims 
> did they charge you for and did they give you back the used ones that were 
> no longer in use?
> Bill in Yardley, PA
> wkdenton at verizon.net
> PAMSP RiderCoach
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "john leonard" <jlmdx at hotmail.com>
> Hello Bill,
> I don't know exactly what they did with the values but they billed me 4 
> hours for the values and 30 minutes for the carbs.
> The bike has only 18K on it.  I purchased it with 4K, and at that time they 
> told me the valves were just maintained. 
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