Looking for an oil pan
tuner_delorean at yahoo.com
Thu Mar 18 00:18:06 PDT 2010
I think nothing of having major parts welded, had plenty of parts welded over the years, the hardest part is finging a COMPETENT WELDER!!!!!!!!!!!
many dont know what they are doing when welding bike cases, but when they know what they are doing I would trust them.
I worked at a independent Harley shop for 13 years, & had to get many cases welded, even on sealing surfaces, I have seen many cases blown apart & rewelded & not have any problems.
my Harley heads on one of the rebuilds I noticed the spark plug holes were a little worn, so instead of risking a problem down the road I had them rewelded, the welder actually ran a drill bit through the pulg hole, removed al threads, & filled int he entire area with weld bead, then machined it & cut new threads, I had dual plugh heads & I had all 4 spark plug holes done, & had absolutely no problems, motor is torn down right now, for when ever I decide to rebuild it again. but plug holes are perfect. but it cost me around $60 per hole for 4 holes 10 to 12 years ago.
I have seen a few shady welders drill hole out, then weld in a aluminum slug, & then the aluminum slug strips.
as for my opinion if I couldnt find a used pan easily, I would call independent harley shops especially shops that specialize in older Harleys, or a "club" shop as when alot of 1 %ers are around they usually have rode hard & have ragged out bikes & many will have rebuilt cases, ask who does their welding for major case repairs & how is their quality, & go with them other than a normal machine shop welding service thats not familiar with welding motorcycle cases! I would trust that alot more than a regular machine shop!
--- On Wed, 3/17/10, Dennis <gpzeer at gmail.com> wrote:
From: Dennis <gpzeer at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Looking for an oil pan
To: "GPZ List" <gpzlist at micapeak.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 8:46 PM
Yea it is cracked where the drain plug goes in. On the flat plug sealing surface there are cracks at 3, 6, and 9 O'clock. I had my brother who is a machinist look at it, and he says that he would NOT take a chance with a repair considering the catastrophic consequence if it subsequently failed and all the oil puked out.
From: "John Soliday" <johnsoliday at msn.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 6:04 PM
To: "'GPZ List'" <gpzlist at micapeak.com>
Subject: RE: Looking for an oil pan
> Sorry to hear that, heck some people don't even know there is a front drain
> plug! If it's cracked into the drain plug, imho then you do need an oil
> pan. If it's not cracked into the drain plug, believe it or not you should
> be able to repair it. I used to be sponsored by Loctite by in my racing
> days and can tell you that Loctite Cold Bond will seal an oil pan at least
> for an entire race season! It exposed to pressurized oil so an epoxy fix
> might last forever. On the other hand, if you go to the bother of taking
> the pan off why not take it down to a machine shop and have it welded? For
> that matter, even if the crack is in the threaded drain, a machine shop
> should be able to weld it shut and retap the drain plug. Just a thought as
> you already have the broken part and I suspect you're going to have a
> difficult time finding just that part as any junk yard is going to want to
> sell an entire engine unless it's trashed and who knows what's broken there.
> Good Luck, and yes it was only a mere 68 degrees F here in Colorado today,
> and I did go riding but it was the KLR not the GPZ,
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gpzlist-bounces at micapeak.com [mailto:gpzlist-bounces at micapeak.com] On
> Behalf Of Dennis
> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 12:27 PM
> To: GPZ List
> Subject: Looking for an oil pan
> Hey Gang,
> I was in Virginia for the last year and a half, while my GPz 1100 was in
> Utah. The bike has been idle during that time, and I am now getting it back
> on the road. So - I am back on the list, and I already need a favor. My
> oil pan has been cracked in the vicinity of the front drain plug (thanks for
> not asking how) and I think the easiest fix is to replace the oil pan. If
> any lister out there has one they could part with, please let me know. My
> research shows that the GPz oil pan is the same part number as the ZX-11
> from 1993-2001. Any help would be appreciated. It is nice to be back on
> the list. 63 degrees F here in Utah today and no bike to ride (ARHGGGG!)
> Dennis Peterson
> Orem, Utah USA
> 95 RED!
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