Another One Bites the Dust

Thomas Hoy thoy at
Sat May 15 14:04:16 PDT 2010

Hmmmm... Plastic gear prone to failure?  D'ya think?

Sometimes engineering and manufacturing choices are baffling.

I am currently pondering the engineering choice that Big K made with zx
liquid cooleds and their counterbalancer.  They just stuck the old shaft
through the engine case, and it's like whoever was designing it said..
I know, let's just pinch the thing with a little arm on the outside and 
Plug up the hole with a seal.  

Not that it's a problem, and the the thing works, but it's just interesting.
It is such a mickey-mouse solution when you look at it in perspective, you 
Just have to get into the dude's mind...

-----Original Message-----
From: gpzlist-bounces at [mailto:gpzlist-bounces at] On
Behalf Of Stephen hampson
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 10:54 AM
To: 'GPZ List'
Subject: RE: Another One Bites the Dust

No not a pain just that EFI was better for modification and no carb icing as
they were prone to. 
The D and E models had a plastic gear driving the oil pump which was prone
to failure some were changed under warranty most not. They updated to EFI on
the F model and also upgraded the plastic gear to a steel one in 99 or 2000.

As long as you are aware of the problems and know what to look for when
buying, they are still fine bikes.


-----Original Message-----
From: gpzlist-bounces at [mailto:gpzlist-bounces at] On
Behalf Of Patrick Thompson
Sent: 15 May 2010 16:18
To: GPZ List
Subject: RE: Another One Bites the Dust

What year did the Vulcan come out with EFI? Are the late 90's Vulcans with
carbs a pain?

Stephen hampson <shampson at> wrote:

>I had returned to biking after a 15 yrs layoff. I wanted something that
wasn't going to frighten the hell out of me and would be good two up. After
a year riding it and thoroughly enjoying it I got a need for speed and salty
british winter roads are not very kind to all that chrome.
>To be honest I wish I could of afforded both at the time as the I don't
think the mrs has forgiven me for selling it.
>I wouldn't hesitate in buying another but would probably go for an EFI
rather than carbed model. There are a couple of known issues with the D and
E models that were fixed on later ones.
>The early suzuki VL1500 are basically the same bike. I think Suzuki went
their own way after 98.
>Who now has a supermoto to play on and the geeper for travelling
>-----Original Message-----
>From: gpzlist-bounces at [mailto:gpzlist-bounces at] On
Behalf Of Patrick Thompson
>Sent: 15 May 2010 14:48
>To: GPZ List
>Subject: RE: Another One Bites the Dust
>Why did you get the gpz over the Vulcan? 
>Stephen hampson <shampson at> wrote:
>>I went the other way Vn1500 Classic to the GPZ. Theres a great forum on
>>Delphi full of great advise and people 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: gpzlist-bounces at [mailto:gpzlist-bounces at]
>>Behalf Of Patrick
>>Sent: 15 May 2010 03:55
>>To: gpzlist at
>>Subject: Re: Another One Bites the Dust
>>How are you liking the cruiser?  My gpz is for sale also. I have got a lot
>>of calls about the gpz, I will miss it.  Probably gonna go with the Vulcan
>>1500 classic.
>>On Fri May 14th, 2010 8:48 PM MDT Dave King wrote:
>>>Well I really didn't want to do it, in fact I hadn't even tried, but I
>>my '96 GPz.  A couple of weeks ago I bought a big V-twin cruiser.  Well
>>of my friends that has recently started riding again after several years
>>came by the house and was admiring the GPz and then says, "Whatcha want
>>it?"  I was stunned but I shot him a price and he didn't even blink, he
>>smiled and before I knew what happened I was holding a bunch of $$$ and he
>>was riding off on my GPz.  
>>>Y'all keep em out of the ditches out there.  
>>>Dave in E. Tenn.  Black '04 Suzuki Intruder VL1500, (black is still

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