All that for 3 HP?

KC Gager kc at
Wed Jun 25 20:04:58 PDT 2008

OK Let me se if I have this right. You had a car guy doing your dyno stuff?
I'm most case car guys are clueless about motorcycles. Mechanic that can
tune both car and bike are far and few between... You put cams in? Whose
cams? Where they set. I need opening and closing numbers please. What
Compression are you at. Most likely where the power is hiding is in the cam
time. If the cams are not set at the right point You can make shit for
power. That would explain why you bike is low on power. And is fat on fuel.

Here is a list of FACTROY PRO tuning centers in FL Go to one of them. Even
if it is a bit of a drive I'm pretty sure it will be worth the time. The
factory pro dyno is a true tuning dyno. We have a pretty good reputation for
make top HP. We could not do it with out the Factory pro set up. 
Let me know whaer your cams are at and I'll try to help. 
Gulf Breeze Allstar Hyperformance LLC
Troy Crider 5668 Gulf Breeze Parkway
Bldg B suite #5
Gulf Breeze FL 32583
(850) 932-0303
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KC Gager
BRG Racing Products
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-----Original Message-----
From: matthew patton [mailto:pattonme at] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 4:04 PM
To: sv650 at
Subject: Re: All that for 3 HP?

i agreee that the ROI looks damn pathetic. the bike came with the
jetkit (installed pathetically), and the pipe. I added teh cams because
I wanted to. the difference was palpable in the butt. I am not
confident in this dyno operator, nor his ability to configure it
properly. (he didn't know anything about wasted spark or how to get the
software to compensate) and he's been in the auto and mc racing
business well neigh 30 years.

it's hot and rains a lot here in FL which will also depress numbers. I
knew that my bike is running too rich, I can smell the damn odor. but
after a trackday at VIR last year it developed a bad gas leak into the
front cylinder and would hydrolock on me more often than I would like
after I unmoth-balled it after about 8 months of sitting.

So with the cam swap, gas lines replumbed and bowl needle working
again, float heights set properly I wanted a run to see where it stood.
and got a crap number.

When I get back to Virginia (or at least NC) I intend to have it run
again. But in the meantime after I fix fuel starvation/delivery
problems the local guy will give me anohter few runs to see how the A/F
mixture is doing.

the run I got had a very flat torque curve, absolutely no dips and
power was completely linear so overly rich or not the motor was
operating quite well. I was getting about 42mpg so that was reasonable
as well.


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