Another Track Day tire question?

Randy Grein randygrein at comcast.net
Fri Jun 27 14:52:42 PDT 2008


I'm in the Seattle area - Bellevue, to be exact. And yeah, I feel both  
desires - value and performance.
Randy Grein, WMRRA #41

On Jun 27, 2008, at 2:22 PM, Mike Moore wrote:

> I would be interested in anything that would allow me to run Pirelli  
> DCIIIs
> 180/17 on my 2006 SV650.  Like I said I gladly pay around $150  
> shipped right
> now.  If I find I'm way off in price I'll certainly pay what it's  
> worth.
> Like I said I just started looking and I my Dutch background tend to  
> make me
> cheap. LOL.
>
> If you've got something else that would fit, I would be very  
> interested.  I
> just need to understand what else I have to get.  Rotors,cush,  
> spacers,
> etc.
>
> If I don't respond before Monday it because I'm leaving soon for a  
> track day
> and probably won't have any internet access.
>
> Just curious, where are you located?
>
> Thanks again and have a great weekend
> Mike
>
> On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Randy Grein  
> <randygrein at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> No insult assumed Mike - like I said, we're among friends here. I  
>> suspect
>> the inclusion of the bearing kit may be more than you'll want to  
>> pay (not
>> that I blame you) but if you're interested in one of the other  
>> wheels I have
>> I can check fitment for you. The new GSXR rim I mentioned is  
>> particularly
>> nice, but may be too much.
>> Randy Grein, WMRRA #41
>>
>>
>> On Jun 27, 2008, at 6:40 AM, Mike Moore wrote:
>>
>> Hope I didn't insult you by a lowball offer, but I really just  
>> started
>>> looking and was going by current ebay auctions.  As you said I  
>>> really
>>> don't
>>> want to pay for a spacer kit I can't use so but I would give $120  
>>> for one
>>> assuming the shipping was around $20-30 which is what I've paid in  
>>> the
>>> past.
>>>
>>> Thanks for all the info in this post.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 12:07 AM, Randy Grein <randygrein at comcast.net 
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, NOBODY has made a firm offer - we're among friends though. I  
>>> paid
>>>> $100 for each wheel + the cush ($35) and bearing kit ($55). (Sorry
>>>> Charlie,
>>>> forgot about the cush.) One has been freshly coated looks pretty  
>>>> good and
>>>> comes with a decent Pirelli slick, the other is merely good. Both  
>>>> have
>>>> rotors. I'd like to get something like that out of it. Doesn't  
>>>> have to be
>>>> full value, but something close - between $120 and $150 might be  
>>>> right. I
>>>> can see that Mike won't want to pay for the spacer kit he can't  
>>>> use so he
>>>> may be priced out, but then maybe it's easier to find F3 wheels  
>>>> now. I
>>>> never
>>>> did come by any of the $60 deals.
>>>>
>>>> Randy Grein, WMRRA #41
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 26, 2008, at 7:41 PM, Erik Weber wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So, Randy, do you have a setup for a 1st gen -- all the required
>>>>
>>>>> parts? (Obviously Mike has first dibs.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Does this increase or decrease the total weight of the SV by much?
>>>>>
>>>>> I might want to give this a try if the price is right. I am  
>>>>> going to
>>>>> build a superbike out of this bike at some point anyway. More  
>>>>> traction
>>>>> to drive out of the corners at full lean sounds worth it, since I
>>>>> really like having the ride height so high on the Penske.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm guessing shipping a wheel across the US would absolutely suck
>>>>> though.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/26/08, Randy Grein <randygrein at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Gain - traction by the ton. I could find NOTHING that would  
>>>>> unsettle
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>> Cost. 180s cost more than 160s.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Loss - a bit of quick-flick. That might have been mitigated with
>>>>>> further
>>>>>> adjustments we never got a chance to try.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Randy Grein, WMRRA #41
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 26, 2008, at 2:04 PM, Erik Weber wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What does going to the 5" rim gain you, and what is the tradeoff?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/26/08, Randy Grein <randygrein at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LImited as in we couldn't keep the motor together. I have 2  
>>>>>>> rears,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> complete
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> with cush, rotor and Zoran's bearing kit. Nice kit, BTW. Oh and  
>>>>>> yes -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> they're for sale together or singly, I can't use them for the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> foreseeable
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> future. Make an offer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Randy Grein, WMRRA #41
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jun 25, 2008, at 6:50 PM, Mike Moore wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Randy G,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can you elaborate on "good although limited success with a  
>>>>>>>>> Pirelli
>>>>>>>>> 180
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> the 5" rim.".  Limited in what way?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also you said you had a rim? are you interested in selling  
>>>>>>>>> it?  Does
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the cush drive? disk rotor?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> mike
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You said you had
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 10:17 PM, Randy Grein <
>>>>>>>>> randygrein at comcast.net
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I had good although limited success with a Pirelli 180 on  
>>>>>>>>> the 5"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> rim. I
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> miss all that power and traction. Even the 160 spreads out better
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> extra half inch.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Randy Grein, WMRRA #41
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 18, 2008, at 9:55 PM, Jo Rhett wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 18, 2008, at 7:40 AM, Mike Moore wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> III but they are not available in 160 for the SV.   
>>>>>>>>>>> Recently it
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> suggested
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> that I consider switching out the rear wheel (F3 or similar) so
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> DC III.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone have experience with this type of setup?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Many many people.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone know for sure what is is required for an F3 rear  
>>>>>>>>>>> wheel
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> swap.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rim, a different rear brake disc that will fit in your  
>>>>>>>>>>>> stock
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> brakes,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and a
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> washer from Zoran.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Does F3 year make a difference?  I think before about '98  
>>>>>>>>>>> the F3
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> was a
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 5"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> rim and
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5.5" later.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You want the 5.5 size rim, which will let you use a 180  
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pirelli
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> rear.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> (won't work for Dunlop though, and I've heard mixed answers for
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Michelin)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Jo Rhett /  velociRaptor Racing
>>>>>>>>>>> #553 WERA / AFM
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>



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