All that for 3 HP

KC Gager kc at
Sat Jun 28 09:23:23 PDT 2008

<but sounds like cam timing is off. Is there an  
<Exhaust analyzer available to check mixture>
Randy is right....
YES cam timing is OFF. Jay used to work with me here. He moved to Tampa. 
I'll get a hold of him if you like and see if he can look at the bike. Jay
is very good with cam timing. I know he can help.  
Your going down the rabbit hole with the back pressure stuff. You need to
look at the cam timing. If you can do a compression test leak down and check
the valve adjustment and let me know what they are. And like I said get on a
factory pro dyno. Orlando is not that far from Tampa. It will be worth the
trip. The fact the guy who has the factory dyno bought one shows he knows

KC Gager
BRG Racing Products
"We Have Sickness For Quickness"
KC at

-----Original Message-----
From: Randy Grein [mailto:randygrein at] 
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 8:55 AM
To: Suzuki SV650 Mailing List
Subject: Re: All that for 3 HP

KC may know more, but sounds like cam timing is off. Is there an  
exhaust analyzer available to check mixture?

Randy Grein, WMRRA #41

On Jun 28, 2008, at 1:05 AM, matthew patton wrote:

> so another run today on the DJ250i, and the only change was I leaned
> stuff out across the board. the motor climbs thru the RPMs VERY fast.
> But laying the trace over Holeshot's data they publish for their pipe
> and also stock, I now supposedly make the same power as his carb and
> pipe setup; namely 70HP. (yes, I know I'm comparing donuts to
> elephants)
> But absolute numbers aside, what struck me was that I'm missing  
> torque,
> some 3-4ft/lbs worth and even a deficit over stock all the way to 8000
> RPM. But even more interesting is where my motor makes power vs both a
> stock and Holeshot bike. Stock peaks at 8500 or so and starts to fall
> off quickly. Holeshot max power starts from 8500 and goes all the way
> to 9500 RPM. Mine doesn't even START till 9000 RPM and then stays very
> close to max till the rev limiter kicks in.
> So basically the torque deficit and the power coming on at high RPM
> implies to me that I am lacking back pressure. Next up, corking up the
> can some how and doing some more runs. any ideas on what to use aside
> from some duct tape and some metal shim stock?

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