the rules nobody knows
jorhett at fastlizardracing.com
Mon Mar 24 13:08:44 PDT 2008
I understand now that it's been explained to me. But that's the
problem. My bike violates the rules because the rulebook was not
clear and self-contained in its terminology.
On Mar 24, 2008, at 11:22 AM, Ernest Montague wrote:
> Preload is mechanical pressure on the spring
> Rebound adjustment is mechanical adjustment or pressure that limits
> flow through the rebound valves.
> different animals completely
> On Mar 24, 2008, at 11:13 AM, Jo Rhett wrote:
>> On Mar 22, 2008, at 1:18 AM, wmontoya at znet.com wrote:
>>> Quoting Jo Rhett:
>>>> I know. But he was there for all of the rules meeting *AND* the
>>>> discussion of allowable fork changes under 9.2 rules. That's why I
>>>> am calling him out on the finger pointing.
>>>> Summary of my complaint: nobody read the rule, yourself included
>>>> even when you were on the rules committee. So don't point at us.
>>> sorry, but i don't accept the call (it was probably collect,
>>> and obviously you remember things differently than i.
>>> i remember no statement at the meeting saying "as long as
>>> tubes are
>>> stock, you are OK" and i have no such notes in my minutes (i just
>> This wasn't part of main business, but instead part of
>> conversations I had with Kevin and with a larger discussion group
>> at the meeting about 650 Production before the meeting officially
>>> as stated elsewhere, the rule's wording is clear and that's where
>>> i always
>>> would have directed the conversation towards had the discussion
>>> gotten down
>> Clear to whom? I'm sorry, I read the rules very carefully and No,
>> the rule is not clear. As the fork caps on the bike came *stock*
>> with preload adjustment, I didn't think that this rule applied.
>> It does not say that adding rebound adjustment is against the
>> rules. It says "spring adjustment". Okay, that's preload,
>> rebound and compression right? What else would I need? *NOTE:
>> not a suspension expert, obviously.
>> And I just checked the rulebook, and there's no part of the
>> rulebook that breaks out terms like preload and rebound and says
>> "preload is spring adjustment, rebound is not spring adjustment"
>> so how exactly am I to know this?
>> AND as my witnesses, I call Ed Shaimas and Kevin who both told me
>> that these forks were legal according to the rules.
>> As exhibit 1, I call ... what, 60 bikes that have been illegal
>> since the creation of the 9.2 rules?
>> As exhibit 2, I ask the board to supply the list of bikes which
>> have been disqualified for violating the rule. (none, according to
>> So in short, you can claim the rule is "very clear" but you're
>> wrong. Because if the rule is very clear, then the only possible
>> conclusion is to assume the board chose to overlook it for some,
>> until it became an issue for someone they didn't want to overlook
>> it for. Google: corrupt
>> No, I'm not saying the board is corrupt. I'm saying that the
>> board, tech, and the racers all (mis)understood the rule exactly
>> the same way, which is why there are so many illegal proddy
>> bikes. And that the rule should be interpreted exactly as it was
>> understood before, and exactly according to the advice under which
>> I spent nearly $10k in preseason.
>> Look, I'm sorry for ranting at you. You're generally a reasonable
>> guy. But standing back and claiming that we didn't properly
>> understand a badly written rule THAT NOT A SINGLE MEMBER OF THE
>> BOARD OR TECH UNDERSTOOD ANY BETTER is B*S* and you know better.
>> Jo Rhett / velociRaptor Racing
>> #553 WERA / AFM
Jo Rhett / velociRaptor Racing
#553 WERA / AFM
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