better brakes

Chris Burgess chris at chrisburgess.com
Thu Sep 25 16:57:57 PDT 2008


The straight is something like just short of a mile long or something like
that.  Its really boring actually.

Here's a link to the sat shot:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=spokane,+wa&ie=UTF8&ll=47.663841,-117.569439&spn=0.013498,0.026093&t=h&z=16


On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 4:14 PM, zoran <zv30 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> funny,I have never hit rev limiter in 6th on sv.not even at Miller with
> 15/46 gearing.
>
>
> Zoran Vujasinovic
> Twin Works Factory
> 775-786-4881
> www.twfracing.com
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Burgess" <chris at chrisburgess.com>
>
> To: "Suzuki SV650 Mailing List" <sv650 at micapeak.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 4:04 PM
>
> Subject: Re: better brakes
>
>
> My SV650 stock motor last year indicated 146mph at the end of Spokane
>> Raceways.  This is with a Michelin C front using the stock speedo pickup.
>> Gearing was 15/44 with a Michelin Power Race 160 rear tire and I was
>> sitting
>> at the rev limiter (had to roll off just a tad before turn 1 or it smack
>> the
>> rev limiter mid corner)
>>
>> No idea how far off it is but the front tire is a bigger tire than the
>> stock
>> tire which unless I am incorrect means the speedo is going to read low
>> compared to stock.
>>
>> Anybody have guesses on what the real speed was?
>>
>> -Chris
>> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Jo Rhett <jorhett at fastlizardracing.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> Heh, I'd love to see an SV go 140mph.  Real life fastest I think mine have
>>> gone was 126 *with* a hefty tailwind.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 25, 2008, at 2:13 PM, Kabara, Richard M. wrote:
>>>
>>> Jo, keep in mind that power goes with the cube (3rd power) of speed for
>>>> aero drag. At those speeds, mechanical drag is a small percentage of
>>>> total
>>>> drag, assume it zero. Assume aero drag is the same for both bikes.
>>>>
>>>> These are ROUGH numbers for illustration:
>>>> GSX-R1000  150 rear wheel-hp  180mph top speed
>>>> SV650       70 rear wheel-hp  140mph top speed
>>>>
>>>> (180mph/140mph)^3 = 2.1
>>>>
>>>> 150hp/70hp      = 2.1
>>>>
>>>> So the GSX-R1000 has more than double the hp, but only goes ~30% faster
>>>> than the SV...
>>>>
>>>> Mother Nature is a real bitch!
>>>> Rich
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Jo Rhett [mailto:jorhett at fastlizardracing.com]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 4:51 PM
>>>> To: Suzuki SV650 Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: better brakes
>>>>
>>>> 100 more horsepower gets you 15mph?   That's hard to believe.
>>>> (not saying you are wrong, just doesn't make any sense to me)
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 25, 2008, at 1:20 PM, zoran wrote:
>>>>
>>>> it is about 15-20 miles per hour difference between two bikes.
>>>>> it is acceleration of gsxr that makes you think it is much faster
>>>>> than that.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Zoran Vujasinovic
>>>>> Twin Works Factory
>>>>> 775-786-4881
>>>>> www.twfracing.com
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jo Rhett" <
>>>>> jorhett at fastlizardracing.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> To: "Suzuki SV650 Mailing List" <sv650 at micapeak.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 1:17 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: better brakes
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Quite possible, I hardly checked it out to determine accuracy ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trust me that it wasn't just 135 or something.  That's within 10
>>>>>> miles per hour of what the SV does.  I was going faster by halfway
>>>>>> down the straight than the SV does at the end of the straight.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 25, 2008, at 12:41 PM, vik anderson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, I race a 2005 GSXR1000 and I have never seen anything close
>>>>>>> to  170 at
>>>>>>> Thill. My laps times are usually 1:58's. Sometimes faster,
>>>>>>> sometimes slower.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Methinks the bike you were riding was re-geared and the speedo,
>>>>>>> which is
>>>>>>> notoriously inaccurate anyway, was reading higher due to the re-
>>>>>>> gearing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Jo Rhett <
>>>>>>> jorhett at fastlizardracing.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Huh?  Just to be clear, my mid-corner speed between 14 and 15 was
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ~90mph
>>>>>>>> and I was well past 150mph before the start/finish line.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Remember, GSXR1000.  Not an SV.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sep 25, 2008, at 12:31 PM, Ernest Montague wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> adjusted for bench racing
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Actual 135
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 25, 2008, at 12:25 PM, vik anderson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 170?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Jo Rhett <
>>>>>>>>>> jorhett at fastlizardracing.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A long time ago there was a conversation about having better
>>>>>>>>>> brakes, and
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> was told that I didn't know good because I had never felt it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Well the '03 750 front end had better stopping power, but only
>>>>>>>>>>> incrementally so and certainly wasn't an eye opener.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Last week I rode a friend's 2006 GSXR1000 and *THAT* was some
>>>>>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>>>>>> brakes.  I grabbed them lightly in the paddock and did a full on
>>>>>>>>>>> stoppie.  I
>>>>>>>>>>> was worried they might be too grabby on the track, but at
>>>>>>>>>>> speed  they
>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>> incremental and *sweet*.  170mph down Thunderhill's front
>>>>>>>>>>> straight and I
>>>>>>>>>>> felt better entering turn 1 on the GSXR1000 than I ever did on
>>>>>>>>>>> either
>>>>>>>>>>> sv650.
>>>>>>>>>>> My god those brakes were nice.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The pads were Vesrah SRJL, which I have already acquired.
>>>>>>>>>>> Is  there
>>>>>>>>>>> anything else about the '06 brakes I might want to find?  Can
>>>>>>>>>>> I  just
>>>>>>>>>>> swap
>>>>>>>>>>> these onto my '03 front end?  Pretty please?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Jo Rhett /  velociRaptor Racing
>>>>>>>>>>> #553 WERA / AFM
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Vik
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jo Rhett /  velociRaptor Racing
>>>>>>>> #553 WERA / AFM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Vik
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Jo Rhett /  velociRaptor Racing
>>>>>> #553 WERA / AFM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>> Jo Rhett /  velociRaptor Racing
>>>> #553 WERA / AFM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>  Jo Rhett /  velociRaptor Racing
>>> #553 WERA / AFM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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