better brakes

Charlie Daniell danvetc at bellsouth.net
Thu Sep 25 18:32:45 PDT 2008


OTFP

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Charlie Daniell, DVM
Chief of Surgery and Kennel Maintenance
Daniell Veterinary Clinic, PC
Brunswick, GA



-----Original Message-----
From: zoran [mailto:zv30 at sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 8:01 PM
To: Suzuki SV650 Mailing List
Subject: Re: better brakes

miller straight is 3300 feet.
in fact I did not hit it at daytona either.


Zoran Vujasinovic
Twin Works Factory
775-786-4881
www.twfracing.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Burgess" <chris at chrisburgess.com>
To: "Suzuki SV650 Mailing List" <sv650 at micapeak.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: better brakes


> The straight is something like just short of a mile long or something like
> that.  Its really boring actually.
>
> Here's a link to the sat shot:
>
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=spokane,+wa&ie=UTF8&ll=47.6
63841,-117.569439&spn=0.013498,0.026093&t=h&z=16
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 4:14 PM, zoran <zv30 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> funny,I have never hit rev limiter in 6th on sv.not even at Miller with
>> 15/46 gearing.
>>
>>
>> Zoran Vujasinovic
>> Twin Works Factory
>> 775-786-4881
>> www.twfracing.com
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Burgess" 
>> <chris at chrisburgess.com>
>>
>> To: "Suzuki SV650 Mailing List" <sv650 at micapeak.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 4:04 PM
>>
>> Subject: Re: better brakes
>>
>>
>> My SV650 stock motor last year indicated 146mph at the end of Spokane
>>> Raceways.  This is with a Michelin C front using the stock speedo 
>>> pickup.
>>> Gearing was 15/44 with a Michelin Power Race 160 rear tire and I was
>>> sitting
>>> at the rev limiter (had to roll off just a tad before turn 1 or it smack
>>> the
>>> rev limiter mid corner)
>>>
>>> No idea how far off it is but the front tire is a bigger tire than the
>>> stock
>>> tire which unless I am incorrect means the speedo is going to read low
>>> compared to stock.
>>>
>>> Anybody have guesses on what the real speed was?
>>>
>>> -Chris
>>> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Jo Rhett <jorhett at fastlizardracing.com
>>> >wrote:
>>>
>>> Heh, I'd love to see an SV go 140mph.  Real life fastest I think mine 
>>> have
>>>> gone was 126 *with* a hefty tailwind.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 25, 2008, at 2:13 PM, Kabara, Richard M. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Jo, keep in mind that power goes with the cube (3rd power) of speed for
>>>>> aero drag. At those speeds, mechanical drag is a small percentage of
>>>>> total
>>>>> drag, assume it zero. Assume aero drag is the same for both bikes.
>>>>>
>>>>> These are ROUGH numbers for illustration:
>>>>> GSX-R1000  150 rear wheel-hp  180mph top speed
>>>>> SV650       70 rear wheel-hp  140mph top speed
>>>>>
>>>>> (180mph/140mph)^3 = 2.1
>>>>>
>>>>> 150hp/70hp      = 2.1
>>>>>
>>>>> So the GSX-R1000 has more than double the hp, but only goes ~30% 
>>>>> faster
>>>>> than the SV...
>>>>>
>>>>> Mother Nature is a real bitch!
>>>>> Rich
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Jo Rhett [mailto:jorhett at fastlizardracing.com]
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 4:51 PM
>>>>> To: Suzuki SV650 Mailing List
>>>>> Subject: Re: better brakes
>>>>>
>>>>> 100 more horsepower gets you 15mph?   That's hard to believe.
>>>>> (not saying you are wrong, just doesn't make any sense to me)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 25, 2008, at 1:20 PM, zoran wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> it is about 15-20 miles per hour difference between two bikes.
>>>>>> it is acceleration of gsxr that makes you think it is much faster
>>>>>> than that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Zoran Vujasinovic
>>>>>> Twin Works Factory
>>>>>> 775-786-4881
>>>>>> www.twfracing.com
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jo Rhett" <
>>>>>> jorhett at fastlizardracing.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To: "Suzuki SV650 Mailing List" <sv650 at micapeak.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 1:17 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: better brakes
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Quite possible, I hardly checked it out to determine accuracy ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trust me that it wasn't just 135 or something.  That's within 10
>>>>>>> miles per hour of what the SV does.  I was going faster by halfway
>>>>>>> down the straight than the SV does at the end of the straight.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 25, 2008, at 12:41 PM, vik anderson wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, I race a 2005 GSXR1000 and I have never seen anything close
>>>>>>>> to  170 at
>>>>>>>> Thill. My laps times are usually 1:58's. Sometimes faster,
>>>>>>>> sometimes slower.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Methinks the bike you were riding was re-geared and the speedo,
>>>>>>>> which is
>>>>>>>> notoriously inaccurate anyway, was reading higher due to the re-
>>>>>>>> gearing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Jo Rhett <
>>>>>>>> jorhett at fastlizardracing.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Huh?  Just to be clear, my mid-corner speed between 14 and 15 was
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ~90mph
>>>>>>>>> and I was well past 150mph before the start/finish line.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Remember, GSXR1000.  Not an SV.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 25, 2008, at 12:31 PM, Ernest Montague wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> adjusted for bench racing
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Actual 135
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 25, 2008, at 12:25 PM, vik anderson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 170?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Jo Rhett <
>>>>>>>>>>> jorhett at fastlizardracing.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> A long time ago there was a conversation about having better
>>>>>>>>>>> brakes, and
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> was told that I didn't know good because I had never felt it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Well the '03 750 front end had better stopping power, but only
>>>>>>>>>>>> incrementally so and certainly wasn't an eye opener.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Last week I rode a friend's 2006 GSXR1000 and *THAT* was some
>>>>>>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>>>>>>> brakes.  I grabbed them lightly in the paddock and did a full 
>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>> stoppie.  I
>>>>>>>>>>>> was worried they might be too grabby on the track, but at
>>>>>>>>>>>> speed  they
>>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>>> incremental and *sweet*.  170mph down Thunderhill's front
>>>>>>>>>>>> straight and I
>>>>>>>>>>>> felt better entering turn 1 on the GSXR1000 than I ever did on
>>>>>>>>>>>> either
>>>>>>>>>>>> sv650.
>>>>>>>>>>>> My god those brakes were nice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The pads were Vesrah SRJL, which I have already acquired.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Is  there
>>>>>>>>>>>> anything else about the '06 brakes I might want to find?  Can
>>>>>>>>>>>> I  just
>>>>>>>>>>>> swap
>>>>>>>>>>>> these onto my '03 front end?  Pretty please?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jo Rhett /  velociRaptor Racing
>>>>>>>>>>>> #553 WERA / AFM
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Vik
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jo Rhett /  velociRaptor Racing
>>>>>>>>> #553 WERA / AFM
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Vik
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Jo Rhett /  velociRaptor Racing
>>>>>>> #553 WERA / AFM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>> Jo Rhett /  velociRaptor Racing
>>>>> #553 WERA / AFM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>  Jo Rhett /  velociRaptor Racing
>>>> #553 WERA / AFM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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>
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