[SV650] Greetings and questions

John Treadwell DBSS_Gohan at hotmail.com
Sun Jul 5 12:45:23 PDT 2009


When I got it, and when I got it home, it idles a little high, but sounds 
very good. Idles around 2000-3000, I wasent able to play with the idle screw 
as it was recessed. It also had very bad gas in it.
It appears to be running on two cylinders.... It sounds like it is, but I'm 
not sure. I have just cleaned the carbs moderately, And am about to go get 
some good gas to throw in, and try to start it again and see how it acts.

I was very surprised with the motor, as there were no ticks, no strange 
sounds, just sounded good. I will perform a compression test later, the next 
time I pull the tank. If It runs a little better now, I will start on the 
rear wheel, and fixing the kickstand as primary concerns, The bike was 
almost out of gas as well, but not entirely. But the fuel light was 
flashing, and sometimes solid on.
I was surprised in the float bowls I did find gasoline pudding. Which even 
after cleaning out carbs on bikes from the 80s, I've never really seen 
varnish like this. But I cleaned it out with carb cleaner as well as I 
could. Went through about 4 cans.
I'm not sure if a valve adjustment has been done, but I know I will need to 
do one, it also appears there is an oil leak, But until I get a stand or a 
kickstand, It's going to be hard to diagnose this stuff, as I don't want to 
move it from the wall.
Anyone know if a yamaha seca II kickstand will fit? I Could go grab my 
friends.... as he's not going to be using his bike for a while....
Anyway, I'll report back after I get some good gas in it, and see how it 
runs.
Thanks,
--John


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> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 17:16:12 -0400
> From: "John T" <DBSS_Gohan at hotmail.com>
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> Hi all, Greetings from Raleigh, N.C.
> I just signed up for the list, and have always found mailing list on my 
> favorite vehicles quite helpful communities.
> I've been riding for a while, but have wanted an SV for around 5 years, 
> and after selling my last bike, just picked a 2000 SV up last night.
> It has a couple of issues I wanted to ask about....
> The bike had been sitting for a while before I got it. I'm starting with a 
> carb cleaning, and I have removed the carbs, I'm planning on running some 
> B12 chemtool through it, and some other carb cleaner, and maybe letting 
> that sit overnight, and then pouring it out. I've cleaned out the float 
> bowls, and sprayed through the passages, but I didn't really want to take 
> out the caps to remove the idle screws, or pilot screws, whichever ones 
> are in the caps, to dip in a chem bucket. I figured I would go with this, 
> and if I still have an issue, I'll go back and end up tearing them down 
> entirely, or either have a shop do it. I really don't want to mess with 
> the stock settings.
> The symptoms of the problem it is having... mostly is that it won't rev 
> past 6,000 RPM. And it's very low on power, and lacking some throttle 
> response.
>
> Next. I believe the rear wheel is out of alignment. It starts to feel more 
> unstable, and leany if that makes any sense, the higher speed you go. 
> Almost wobbly, but not quite. The indicators on the swingarm are off by 
> bit, so I figured this may be the issue. And or an issue with the back 
> brake.
>
> Next, the mounting piece, otherwise known as #6 on most catolouge diagrams 
> for the kickstand, does that bend out a little bit? I stupidly left the 
> kickstand down on the 3 hour drive home, when we had strapped it to the 
> trailer, and It bent the kickstand down pretty far. My options for this 
> are replace, or bend the old one back right? I can't figure if the 
> kickstand itself bent, or that mounting piece, anyone know if the mounting 
> piece bends out a little already? Anyone ever made the same mistake and 
> had any luck with a way of bending?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> --John
>
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> Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 11:49:05 -0700
> From: Randy Grein <randygrein at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [SV650] Greetings and questions
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> Welcome to the list John!
> Last problem first - IIRC the piece you refer to is steel and can be
> bent back, although it's more likely that the stand itself bent.
> Bending it back while on the frame might not be a good idea; I'd at
> least TRY a press, or if that's not available a solid vice and
> engineers hammer.
>
> The wobblies - quite a few things could result in the symptoms you
> describe, so check but don't stop at wheel alignment. Get the rear on
> a stand, point the front wheel straight and from behind sight down
> each side of the rear wheel at the bottom so that you can just see the
> edge of the front. Note how much of the rear wheel sidewall is showing
> and then check the other side; if it's aligned correctly both sides
> will show the same amount of sidewall. More likely is the tire is worn
> and misshaped. Look at it from behind; is there a pronounced flat spot
> on one side or the other? More serious is crash damage with the forks
> and triple clamps being likely culprits. Sorting that out might be
> beyond your comfort level; if a close inspection turns up nothing you
> might want to take it in to an expert - a frame shop is best, although
> a good bike shop should be able to determine if something is crooked.
>
> Carb cleaning - never been a fan of the chemical methods, but that's
> lack of experience. I hear quite a few people who have tried it
> without success, but it could be the successful ones don't write in.
> However the symptoms you describe don't fit an idle circuit problem.
> If it's carburetor it's the main jet that's clogged, but there are a
> lot of other things that could cause this. Is it running on both
> cylinders? How does it idle, just barely or not at all - or just fine?
> Is compression good? Any weird sounds coming from the motor? Let us
> know...
>
>
> Randy Grein, WMRRA #41
>
> On Jul 4, 2009, at 2:16 PM, John T wrote:
>
>> Hi all, Greetings from Raleigh, N.C.
>> I just signed up for the list, and have always found mailing list on
>> my favorite vehicles quite helpful communities.
>> I've been riding for a while, but have wanted an SV for around 5
>> years, and after selling my last bike, just picked a 2000 SV up last
>> night.
>> It has a couple of issues I wanted to ask about....
>> The bike had been sitting for a while before I got it. I'm starting
>> with a carb cleaning, and I have removed the carbs, I'm planning on
>> running some B12 chemtool through it, and some other carb cleaner,
>> and maybe letting that sit overnight, and then pouring it out. I've
>> cleaned out the float bowls, and sprayed through the passages, but I
>> didn't really want to take out the caps to remove the idle screws,
>> or pilot screws, whichever ones are in the caps, to dip in a chem
>> bucket. I figured I would go with this, and if I still have an
>> issue, I'll go back and end up tearing them down entirely, or either
>> have a shop do it. I really don't want to mess with the stock
>> settings.
>> The symptoms of the problem it is having... mostly is that it won't
>> rev past 6,000 RPM. And it's very low on power, and lacking some
>> throttle response.
>>
>> Next. I believe the rear wheel is out of alignment. It starts to
>> feel more unstable, and leany if that makes any sense, the higher
>> speed you go. Almost wobbly, but not quite. The indicators on the
>> swingarm are off by  bit, so I figured this may be the issue. And or
>> an issue with the back brake.
>>
>> Next, the mounting piece, otherwise known as #6 on most catolouge
>> diagrams for the kickstand, does that bend out a little bit? I
>> stupidly left the kickstand down on the 3 hour drive home, when we
>> had strapped it to the trailer, and It bent the kickstand down
>> pretty far. My options for this are replace, or bend the old one
>> back right? I can't figure if the kickstand itself bent, or that
>> mounting piece, anyone know if the mounting piece bends out a little
>> already? Anyone ever made the same mistake and had any luck with a
>> way of bending?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> --John
>
>
>
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