[SV650] Greetings and questions
randygrein at comcast.net
Mon Jul 6 06:06:34 PDT 2009
Usually, replacing the coolant with water for a track day and
forgetting to prep it for winter. Or leaving it outside for a midwest
winter. (I'm told they get cold...) Easy way to tell if it's a freeze
plug, look in the radiator. If there's a bunch of scummy oil there
it's a freeze plug. Otherwise your first guess is probably right.
Randy Grein, WMRRA #41
On Jul 6, 2009, at 12:17 AM, John Treadwell wrote:
> What would cause the freeze plug to go?
> From: "Randy Grein" <randygrein at comcast.net>
> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 12:56 AM
> To: "Suzuki SV650 Mailing List" <sv650 at micapeak.com>
> Subject: Re: [SV650] Greetings and questions
>> Assuming it's a head gasket. Could just be the freeze plugs. A few
>> years ago I stupidly forgot that my streetbike was a track bike
>> conversion and hadn't added antifreeze. Pop the valve cover
>> gaskets and check; the plugs are right under there.
>> Randy Grein, WMRRA #41
>> On Jul 5, 2009, at 9:24 PM, John Treadwell wrote:
>>> Bigger problem I just noticed. The oil looks like a milkshake.
>>> And My coolant is down 1/4th of the way in the radiator, as
>>> yesterday... it was almost full.
>>> Blown headgasket.
>>> Does anyone have any idea how much it typically cost to get one
>>> replaced? I figure it can't be too hard to do on this, if it's
>>> the rear cylinder. If it's the front it will be harder. I won't
>>> be able to work on it and get the compression test results until
>>> Wednesday now, as some things came up. But I'm wondering if I
>>> could get a good deal on getting a majority of these things
>>> fixed... like the headgasket, some oil leaks... chain and
>>> sprokets and tires.... I'm imagining the price list for the parts
>>> will be something like this...
>>> Sprockets front and back - 60
>>> Chain - 60
>>> Headgasket - 50
>>> Seals - 20
>>> Tires - 260-300 installed from a stealership
>>> (Does anyone know If you can get better deals on tires online?)
>>> Anyone have any idea what labor might cost me on these things If
>>> I have someone else do it?
>>> Looking at the diagrams, it doesent look too difficult to pull
>>> the heads, and I probably need to for valve adjustments anyway,
>>> But I just wonder if it would be more worth my time to let
>>> someone else do the work instead. But It might cost far too much
>>> and I need to do it myself. lol
>>> Looks like the carbs are at least less of a worry than before.
>>> Thanks again,
>>> From: "Randy Grein" <randygrein at comcast.net>
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 9:38 PM
>>> To: "Suzuki SV650 Mailing List" <sv650 at micapeak.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [SV650] Greetings and questions
>>>> Sounds like you still have crud in the gas. If it was sitting
>>>> that long you may need to drain the float bowels a few times if
>>>> any water is collecting. Also check the air filter & make sure
>>>> something isn't nesting there. The right side cover, if it's
>>>> from the outer cover is an o ring; if the last owner pinched it
>>>> it will leak like anything. If you try to replace it clean the
>>>> groove of oil & put a bit of grease in it - sticky wheel grease
>>>> is good - to hold the o ring in place while installing. You
>>>> might as well drain the oil at the same time; that way you can
>>>> replace the washer under the drain plug. I'm guilty as anyone
>>>> of not replacing it, but they don't reuse well.
>>>> The loud clicking sounds bad - broken wheel bearing maybe? Grab
>>>> the wheel & back end and push/pull it hard sideways; if you can
>>>> feel any slop don't ride it - at all! A loose chain has nothing
>>>> to do with the general lack of torque, that's still your
>>>> carburation problem. At least it idles but the choke (really
>>>> it's an enrichener circuit, not choke) cable needs to be
>>>> cleaned. You can still find a cable lube kit at some bike
>>>> shops, the heart of the system is a blue anodized fixture with
>>>> a twist knob to clamp around a cable end. A hole in the rubber
>>>> accepts the spray nozzle of a lubricant can like WD-40 and is
>>>> great for cleaning and lubing cables. You will have to
>>>> disassemble the left handlebar switch, but it's not a big deal.
>>>> Good luck...
>>>> Randy Grein, WMRRA #41
>>>> On Jul 5, 2009, at 5:36 PM, John Treadwell wrote:
>>>>> Well, I got the gas in it, and the carbs cleaned, and it runs a
>>>>> bit better. It will rev past 5/6k now, but sometimes it gets a
>>>>> little hesitation as it's approaching it. I suppose the gas
>>>>> needs to run through it a bit, but I've got an oil leak from
>>>>> the right side of the bike, around the larger engine cover
>>>>> over there.... Possibly at one of the plugs on the bottom as
>>>>> well. I'd like to fix those, as theres quite a bit of oil
>>>>> leaking. I'm going to do a quick wheel alignment, and chain
>>>>> tension, as my brakes on the back seem to engage too early,
>>>>> And I'm getting a loud clicking from the back as I take off.
>>>>> Also, the bike doesent seem to want to have enough torque to
>>>>> take off from the lower rev range, I've gotta feather the
>>>>> clutch, and rev it up too long I think, But I'm thinking that
>>>>> could just be really loose chain tension.
>>>>> The front tire looks cupped from what I can tell. I need to
>>>>> check air pressures. I torched and hammered out the kickstand
>>>>> itself a little bit, and now I'm thinking about bending the
>>>>> mounting piece a bit, or continuing to whack on the kick stand
>>>>> itself.... the bike will lean now... but it's still leaning a
>>>>> little too much for my comfort. So I'm gonna go throw that
>>>>> bracket in my vice, and see if I can bend it out a little.
>>>>> Also... the bike will idle however I want it to now... The
>>>>> choke works now.. it didn't when I got it. The choke is a
>>>>> little... hard to pull though. I am going to check plugs and
>>>>> compression here in a few minutes as well. I'll report back
>>>>> with those findings as well.
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