[SV650] Greetings and questions

kc kc at brgracing.com
Mon Jul 6 09:32:49 PDT 2009 

Ernie's right duel plain head gaskets can drive you crazy they can blow in a
small way in between the sheet.

-----Original Message-----
From: sv650-bounces at micapeak.com [mailto:sv650-bounces at micapeak.com] On
Behalf Of Ernest Montague
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 9:28 AM
To: Suzuki SV650 Mailing List
Subject: Re: [SV650] Greetings and questions

Not necessarily. A head gasket leak can be quite small.


On Jul 6, 2009, at 9:20 AM, Chris Burgess wrote:

> Its not a head gasket.  If it was all of the water in your system 
> would be
> blown out the radiator into the reserve tank and then out that tank.
>
> -Chris
>
> On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Randy Grein <randygrein at comcast.net> 
> wrote:
>
>> Assuming it's a head gasket. Could just be the freeze plugs. A few 
>> years
>> ago I stupidly forgot that my streetbike was a track bike conversion 
>> and
>> hadn't added antifreeze. Pop the valve cover gaskets and check; the 
>> plugs
>> are right under there.
>>
>> Randy Grein, WMRRA #41
>>
>> On Jul 5, 2009, at 9:24 PM, John Treadwell wrote:
>>
>>   Bigger problem I just noticed. The oil looks like a milkshake. And 
>> My
>>> coolant is down 1/4th of the way in the radiator, as yesterday... it 
>>> was
>>> almost full.
>>> Blown headgasket.
>>> Does anyone have any idea how much it typically cost to get one 
>>> replaced?
>>> I figure it can't be too hard to do on this, if it's the rear 
>>> cylinder. If
>>> it's the front it will be harder. I won't be able to work on it and 
>>> get the
>>> compression test results until Wednesday now, as some things came 
>>> up. But
>>> I'm wondering if I could get a good deal on getting a majority of 
>>> these
>>> things fixed... like the headgasket, some oil leaks... chain and 
>>> sprokets
>>> and tires.... I'm imagining the price list for the parts will be 
>>> something
>>> like this...
>>> Sprockets front and back - 60
>>> Chain - 60
>>> Headgasket - 50
>>> Seals - 20
>>> Tires - 260-300 installed from a stealership
>>> (Does anyone know If you can get better deals on tires online?)
>>>
>>> Anyone have any idea what labor might cost me on these things If I 
>>> have
>>> someone else do it?
>>>
>>> Looking at the diagrams, it doesent look too difficult to pull the 
>>> heads,
>>> and I probably need to for valve adjustments anyway, But I just 
>>> wonder if it
>>> would be more worth my time to let someone else do the work instead. 
>>> But It
>>> might cost far too much and I need to do it myself. lol
>>> Looks like the carbs are at least less of a worry than before.
>>> Thanks again,
>>> --John
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Randy Grein" <randygrein at comcast.net>
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 9:38 PM
>>> To: "Suzuki SV650 Mailing List" <sv650 at micapeak.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [SV650] Greetings and questions
>>>
>>> Sounds like you still have crud in the gas. If it was sitting that  
>>> long
>>>> you may need to drain the float bowels a few times if any water  is
>>>> collecting. Also check the air filter & make sure something isn't  
>>>> nesting
>>>> there. The right side cover, if it's from the outer cover is  an o 
>>>> ring; if
>>>> the last owner pinched it it will leak like anything. If  you try 
>>>> to replace
>>>> it clean the groove of oil & put a bit of grease in  it - sticky 
>>>> wheel
>>>> grease is good - to hold the o ring in place while  installing. You 
>>>> might as
>>>> well drain the oil at the same time; that way  you can replace the 
>>>> washer
>>>> under the drain plug. I'm guilty as anyone  of not replacing it, 
>>>> but they
>>>> don't reuse well.
>>>>
>>>> The loud clicking sounds bad - broken wheel bearing maybe? Grab the
>>>>  wheel & back end and push/pull it hard sideways; if you can feel 
>>>> any  slop
>>>> don't ride it - at all! A loose chain has nothing to do with the  
>>>> general
>>>> lack of torque, that's still your carburation problem. At  least it 
>>>> idles
>>>> but the choke (really it's an enrichener circuit, not  choke) cable 
>>>> needs to
>>>> be cleaned. You can still find a cable lube kit  at some bike 
>>>> shops, the
>>>> heart of the system is a blue anodized fixture  with a twist knob 
>>>> to clamp
>>>> around a cable end. A hole in the rubber  accepts the spray nozzle 
>>>> of a
>>>> lubricant can like WD-40 and is great  for cleaning and lubing 
>>>> cables. You
>>>> will have to disassemble the left  handlebar switch, but it's not a 
>>>> big
>>>> deal.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck...
>>>> Randy Grein, WMRRA #41
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 5, 2009, at 5:36 PM, John Treadwell wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Well, I got the gas in it, and the carbs cleaned, and it runs a bit
>>>>> better. It will rev past 5/6k now, but sometimes it gets a little 
>>>>> hesitation
>>>>> as it's approaching it. I suppose the gas needs to run through it 
>>>>> a bit, but
>>>>> I've got an oil leak from the right side of  the bike, around the 
>>>>> larger
>>>>> engine cover over there.... Possibly at  one of the plugs on the 
>>>>> bottom as
>>>>> well. I'd like to fix those, as  theres quite a bit of oil 
>>>>> leaking. I'm
>>>>> going to do a quick wheel  alignment, and chain tension, as my 
>>>>> brakes on the
>>>>> back seem to  engage too early, And I'm getting a loud clicking 
>>>>> from the
>>>>> back as I  take off. Also, the bike doesent seem to want to have 
>>>>> enough
>>>>> torque  to take off from the lower rev range, I've gotta feather 
>>>>> the clutch,
>>>>>  and rev it up too long I think, But I'm thinking that could just 
>>>>> be  really
>>>>> loose chain tension.
>>>>>
>>>>> The front tire looks cupped from what I can tell. I need to check  
>>>>> air
>>>>> pressures. I torched and hammered out the kickstand itself a  
>>>>> little bit,
>>>>> and now I'm thinking about bending the mounting piece a  bit, or 
>>>>> continuing
>>>>> to whack on the kick stand itself.... the bike  will lean now... 
>>>>> but it's
>>>>> still leaning a little too much for my  comfort. So I'm gonna go 
>>>>> throw that
>>>>> bracket in my vice, and see if I  can bend it out a little.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also... the bike will idle however I want it to now... The choke  
>>>>> works
>>>>> now.. it didn't when I got it. The choke is a little... hard  to 
>>>>> pull
>>>>> though. I am going to check plugs and compression here in a  few 
>>>>> minutes as
>>>>> well. I'll report back with those findings as well.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> --John
>>>>>
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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