[SV650] Greetings and questions

Chris Burgess chris at chrisburgess.com
Mon Jul 6 09:43:04 PDT 2009


I know you guys have more experience here but think about the pressures
generated in the combustion chamber?  If the water camber is availabe it'll
push massive pressure through that at any time.

On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 9:32 AM, kc <kc at brgracing.com> wrote:

> Ernie's right duel plain head gaskets can drive you crazy they can blow in
> a
> small way in between the sheet.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sv650-bounces at micapeak.com [mailto:sv650-bounces at micapeak.com] On
> Behalf Of Ernest Montague
> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 9:28 AM
> To: Suzuki SV650 Mailing List
>  Subject: Re: [SV650] Greetings and questions
>
> Not necessarily. A head gasket leak can be quite small.
>
>
> On Jul 6, 2009, at 9:20 AM, Chris Burgess wrote:
>
> > Its not a head gasket.  If it was all of the water in your system
> > would be
> > blown out the radiator into the reserve tank and then out that tank.
> >
> > -Chris
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Randy Grein <randygrein at comcast.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Assuming it's a head gasket. Could just be the freeze plugs. A few
> >> years
> >> ago I stupidly forgot that my streetbike was a track bike conversion
> >> and
> >> hadn't added antifreeze. Pop the valve cover gaskets and check; the
> >> plugs
> >> are right under there.
> >>
> >> Randy Grein, WMRRA #41
> >>
> >> On Jul 5, 2009, at 9:24 PM, John Treadwell wrote:
> >>
> >>   Bigger problem I just noticed. The oil looks like a milkshake. And
> >> My
> >>> coolant is down 1/4th of the way in the radiator, as yesterday... it
> >>> was
> >>> almost full.
> >>> Blown headgasket.
> >>> Does anyone have any idea how much it typically cost to get one
> >>> replaced?
> >>> I figure it can't be too hard to do on this, if it's the rear
> >>> cylinder. If
> >>> it's the front it will be harder. I won't be able to work on it and
> >>> get the
> >>> compression test results until Wednesday now, as some things came
> >>> up. But
> >>> I'm wondering if I could get a good deal on getting a majority of
> >>> these
> >>> things fixed... like the headgasket, some oil leaks... chain and
> >>> sprokets
> >>> and tires.... I'm imagining the price list for the parts will be
> >>> something
> >>> like this...
> >>> Sprockets front and back - 60
> >>> Chain - 60
> >>> Headgasket - 50
> >>> Seals - 20
> >>> Tires - 260-300 installed from a stealership
> >>> (Does anyone know If you can get better deals on tires online?)
> >>>
> >>> Anyone have any idea what labor might cost me on these things If I
> >>> have
> >>> someone else do it?
> >>>
> >>> Looking at the diagrams, it doesent look too difficult to pull the
> >>> heads,
> >>> and I probably need to for valve adjustments anyway, But I just
> >>> wonder if it
> >>> would be more worth my time to let someone else do the work instead.
> >>> But It
> >>> might cost far too much and I need to do it myself. lol
> >>> Looks like the carbs are at least less of a worry than before.
> >>> Thanks again,
> >>> --John
> >>>
> >>> --------------------------------------------------
> >>> From: "Randy Grein" <randygrein at comcast.net>
> >>> Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 9:38 PM
> >>> To: "Suzuki SV650 Mailing List" <sv650 at micapeak.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: [SV650] Greetings and questions
> >>>
> >>> Sounds like you still have crud in the gas. If it was sitting that
> >>> long
> >>>> you may need to drain the float bowels a few times if any water  is
> >>>> collecting. Also check the air filter & make sure something isn't
> >>>> nesting
> >>>> there. The right side cover, if it's from the outer cover is  an o
> >>>> ring; if
> >>>> the last owner pinched it it will leak like anything. If  you try
> >>>> to replace
> >>>> it clean the groove of oil & put a bit of grease in  it - sticky
> >>>> wheel
> >>>> grease is good - to hold the o ring in place while  installing. You
> >>>> might as
> >>>> well drain the oil at the same time; that way  you can replace the
> >>>> washer
> >>>> under the drain plug. I'm guilty as anyone  of not replacing it,
> >>>> but they
> >>>> don't reuse well.
> >>>>
> >>>> The loud clicking sounds bad - broken wheel bearing maybe? Grab the
> >>>>  wheel & back end and push/pull it hard sideways; if you can feel
> >>>> any  slop
> >>>> don't ride it - at all! A loose chain has nothing to do with the
> >>>> general
> >>>> lack of torque, that's still your carburation problem. At  least it
> >>>> idles
> >>>> but the choke (really it's an enrichener circuit, not  choke) cable
> >>>> needs to
> >>>> be cleaned. You can still find a cable lube kit  at some bike
> >>>> shops, the
> >>>> heart of the system is a blue anodized fixture  with a twist knob
> >>>> to clamp
> >>>> around a cable end. A hole in the rubber  accepts the spray nozzle
> >>>> of a
> >>>> lubricant can like WD-40 and is great  for cleaning and lubing
> >>>> cables. You
> >>>> will have to disassemble the left  handlebar switch, but it's not a
> >>>> big
> >>>> deal.
> >>>>
> >>>> Good luck...
> >>>> Randy Grein, WMRRA #41
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jul 5, 2009, at 5:36 PM, John Treadwell wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Well, I got the gas in it, and the carbs cleaned, and it runs a bit
> >>>>> better. It will rev past 5/6k now, but sometimes it gets a little
> >>>>> hesitation
> >>>>> as it's approaching it. I suppose the gas needs to run through it
> >>>>> a bit, but
> >>>>> I've got an oil leak from the right side of  the bike, around the
> >>>>> larger
> >>>>> engine cover over there.... Possibly at  one of the plugs on the
> >>>>> bottom as
> >>>>> well. I'd like to fix those, as  theres quite a bit of oil
> >>>>> leaking. I'm
> >>>>> going to do a quick wheel  alignment, and chain tension, as my
> >>>>> brakes on the
> >>>>> back seem to  engage too early, And I'm getting a loud clicking
> >>>>> from the
> >>>>> back as I  take off. Also, the bike doesent seem to want to have
> >>>>> enough
> >>>>> torque  to take off from the lower rev range, I've gotta feather
> >>>>> the clutch,
> >>>>>  and rev it up too long I think, But I'm thinking that could just
> >>>>> be  really
> >>>>> loose chain tension.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The front tire looks cupped from what I can tell. I need to check
> >>>>> air
> >>>>> pressures. I torched and hammered out the kickstand itself a
> >>>>> little bit,
> >>>>> and now I'm thinking about bending the mounting piece a  bit, or
> >>>>> continuing
> >>>>> to whack on the kick stand itself.... the bike  will lean now...
> >>>>> but it's
> >>>>> still leaning a little too much for my  comfort. So I'm gonna go
> >>>>> throw that
> >>>>> bracket in my vice, and see if I  can bend it out a little.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Also... the bike will idle however I want it to now... The choke
> >>>>> works
> >>>>> now.. it didn't when I got it. The choke is a little... hard  to
> >>>>> pull
> >>>>> though. I am going to check plugs and compression here in a  few
> >>>>> minutes as
> >>>>> well. I'll report back with those findings as well.
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> --John
> >>>>>
> >>>>> <snip>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
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