[SV650] Greetings and questions

Ernest Montague afm199 at earthlink.net
Mon Jul 6 09:47:02 PDT 2009


I am thinking about the experience. Of trouble shooting one that I had 
that :)


On Jul 6, 2009, at 9:43 AM, Chris Burgess wrote:

> I know you guys have more experience here but think about the pressures
> generated in the combustion chamber?  If the water camber is availabe 
> it'll
> push massive pressure through that at any time.
>
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 9:32 AM, kc <kc at brgracing.com> wrote:
>
>> Ernie's right duel plain head gaskets can drive you crazy they can 
>> blow in
>> a
>> small way in between the sheet.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sv650-bounces at micapeak.com [mailto:sv650-bounces at micapeak.com] 
>> On
>> Behalf Of Ernest Montague
>> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 9:28 AM
>> To: Suzuki SV650 Mailing List
>>  Subject: Re: [SV650] Greetings and questions
>>
>> Not necessarily. A head gasket leak can be quite small.
>>
>>
>> On Jul 6, 2009, at 9:20 AM, Chris Burgess wrote:
>>
>>> Its not a head gasket.  If it was all of the water in your system
>>> would be
>>> blown out the radiator into the reserve tank and then out that tank.
>>>
>>> -Chris
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Randy Grein <randygrein at comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Assuming it's a head gasket. Could just be the freeze plugs. A few
>>>> years
>>>> ago I stupidly forgot that my streetbike was a track bike conversion
>>>> and
>>>> hadn't added antifreeze. Pop the valve cover gaskets and check; the
>>>> plugs
>>>> are right under there.
>>>>
>>>> Randy Grein, WMRRA #41
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 5, 2009, at 9:24 PM, John Treadwell wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   Bigger problem I just noticed. The oil looks like a milkshake. And
>>>> My
>>>>> coolant is down 1/4th of the way in the radiator, as yesterday... 
>>>>> it
>>>>> was
>>>>> almost full.
>>>>> Blown headgasket.
>>>>> Does anyone have any idea how much it typically cost to get one
>>>>> replaced?
>>>>> I figure it can't be too hard to do on this, if it's the rear
>>>>> cylinder. If
>>>>> it's the front it will be harder. I won't be able to work on it and
>>>>> get the
>>>>> compression test results until Wednesday now, as some things came
>>>>> up. But
>>>>> I'm wondering if I could get a good deal on getting a majority of
>>>>> these
>>>>> things fixed... like the headgasket, some oil leaks... chain and
>>>>> sprokets
>>>>> and tires.... I'm imagining the price list for the parts will be
>>>>> something
>>>>> like this...
>>>>> Sprockets front and back - 60
>>>>> Chain - 60
>>>>> Headgasket - 50
>>>>> Seals - 20
>>>>> Tires - 260-300 installed from a stealership
>>>>> (Does anyone know If you can get better deals on tires online?)
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone have any idea what labor might cost me on these things If I
>>>>> have
>>>>> someone else do it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking at the diagrams, it doesent look too difficult to pull the
>>>>> heads,
>>>>> and I probably need to for valve adjustments anyway, But I just
>>>>> wonder if it
>>>>> would be more worth my time to let someone else do the work 
>>>>> instead.
>>>>> But It
>>>>> might cost far too much and I need to do it myself. lol
>>>>> Looks like the carbs are at least less of a worry than before.
>>>>> Thanks again,
>>>>> --John
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>> From: "Randy Grein" <randygrein at comcast.net>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 9:38 PM
>>>>> To: "Suzuki SV650 Mailing List" <sv650 at micapeak.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [SV650] Greetings and questions
>>>>>
>>>>> Sounds like you still have crud in the gas. If it was sitting that
>>>>> long
>>>>>> you may need to drain the float bowels a few times if any water  
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> collecting. Also check the air filter & make sure something isn't
>>>>>> nesting
>>>>>> there. The right side cover, if it's from the outer cover is  an o
>>>>>> ring; if
>>>>>> the last owner pinched it it will leak like anything. If  you try
>>>>>> to replace
>>>>>> it clean the groove of oil & put a bit of grease in  it - sticky
>>>>>> wheel
>>>>>> grease is good - to hold the o ring in place while  installing. 
>>>>>> You
>>>>>> might as
>>>>>> well drain the oil at the same time; that way  you can replace the
>>>>>> washer
>>>>>> under the drain plug. I'm guilty as anyone  of not replacing it,
>>>>>> but they
>>>>>> don't reuse well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The loud clicking sounds bad - broken wheel bearing maybe? Grab 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>  wheel & back end and push/pull it hard sideways; if you can feel
>>>>>> any  slop
>>>>>> don't ride it - at all! A loose chain has nothing to do with the
>>>>>> general
>>>>>> lack of torque, that's still your carburation problem. At  least 
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> idles
>>>>>> but the choke (really it's an enrichener circuit, not  choke) 
>>>>>> cable
>>>>>> needs to
>>>>>> be cleaned. You can still find a cable lube kit  at some bike
>>>>>> shops, the
>>>>>> heart of the system is a blue anodized fixture  with a twist knob
>>>>>> to clamp
>>>>>> around a cable end. A hole in the rubber  accepts the spray nozzle
>>>>>> of a
>>>>>> lubricant can like WD-40 and is great  for cleaning and lubing
>>>>>> cables. You
>>>>>> will have to disassemble the left  handlebar switch, but it's not 
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> big
>>>>>> deal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good luck...
>>>>>> Randy Grein, WMRRA #41
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 5, 2009, at 5:36 PM, John Treadwell wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, I got the gas in it, and the carbs cleaned, and it runs a 
>>>>>> bit
>>>>>>> better. It will rev past 5/6k now, but sometimes it gets a little
>>>>>>> hesitation
>>>>>>> as it's approaching it. I suppose the gas needs to run through it
>>>>>>> a bit, but
>>>>>>> I've got an oil leak from the right side of  the bike, around the
>>>>>>> larger
>>>>>>> engine cover over there.... Possibly at  one of the plugs on the
>>>>>>> bottom as
>>>>>>> well. I'd like to fix those, as  theres quite a bit of oil
>>>>>>> leaking. I'm
>>>>>>> going to do a quick wheel  alignment, and chain tension, as my
>>>>>>> brakes on the
>>>>>>> back seem to  engage too early, And I'm getting a loud clicking
>>>>>>> from the
>>>>>>> back as I  take off. Also, the bike doesent seem to want to have
>>>>>>> enough
>>>>>>> torque  to take off from the lower rev range, I've gotta feather
>>>>>>> the clutch,
>>>>>>>  and rev it up too long I think, But I'm thinking that could just
>>>>>>> be  really
>>>>>>> loose chain tension.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The front tire looks cupped from what I can tell. I need to check
>>>>>>> air
>>>>>>> pressures. I torched and hammered out the kickstand itself a
>>>>>>> little bit,
>>>>>>> and now I'm thinking about bending the mounting piece a  bit, or
>>>>>>> continuing
>>>>>>> to whack on the kick stand itself.... the bike  will lean now...
>>>>>>> but it's
>>>>>>> still leaning a little too much for my  comfort. So I'm gonna go
>>>>>>> throw that
>>>>>>> bracket in my vice, and see if I  can bend it out a little.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also... the bike will idle however I want it to now... The choke
>>>>>>> works
>>>>>>> now.. it didn't when I got it. The choke is a little... hard  to
>>>>>>> pull
>>>>>>> though. I am going to check plugs and compression here in a  few
>>>>>>> minutes as
>>>>>>> well. I'll report back with those findings as well.
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> --John
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>
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