[SV650] Greetings and questions

Chris Burgess chris at chrisburgess.com
Mon Jul 6 09:49:22 PDT 2009


Like I said. :)  Did you get water into your oil then and it turned into a
milkshake?

On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Ernest Montague <afm199 at earthlink.net>wrote:

> I am thinking about the experience. Of trouble shooting one that I had that
> :)
>
>
>
> On Jul 6, 2009, at 9:43 AM, Chris Burgess wrote:
>
> I know you guys have more experience here but think about the pressures
>> generated in the combustion chamber?  If the water camber is availabe
>> it'll
>> push massive pressure through that at any time.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 9:32 AM, kc <kc at brgracing.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ernie's right duel plain head gaskets can drive you crazy they can blow in
>>> a
>>> small way in between the sheet.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: sv650-bounces at micapeak.com [mailto:sv650-bounces at micapeak.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Ernest Montague
>>> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 9:28 AM
>>> To: Suzuki SV650 Mailing List
>>>  Subject: Re: [SV650] Greetings and questions
>>>
>>> Not necessarily. A head gasket leak can be quite small.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 6, 2009, at 9:20 AM, Chris Burgess wrote:
>>>
>>> Its not a head gasket.  If it was all of the water in your system
>>>> would be
>>>> blown out the radiator into the reserve tank and then out that tank.
>>>>
>>>> -Chris
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Randy Grein <randygrein at comcast.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Assuming it's a head gasket. Could just be the freeze plugs. A few
>>>>> years
>>>>> ago I stupidly forgot that my streetbike was a track bike conversion
>>>>> and
>>>>> hadn't added antifreeze. Pop the valve cover gaskets and check; the
>>>>> plugs
>>>>> are right under there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Randy Grein, WMRRA #41
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 5, 2009, at 9:24 PM, John Treadwell wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Bigger problem I just noticed. The oil looks like a milkshake. And
>>>>> My
>>>>>
>>>>>> coolant is down 1/4th of the way in the radiator, as yesterday... it
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> almost full.
>>>>>> Blown headgasket.
>>>>>> Does anyone have any idea how much it typically cost to get one
>>>>>> replaced?
>>>>>> I figure it can't be too hard to do on this, if it's the rear
>>>>>> cylinder. If
>>>>>> it's the front it will be harder. I won't be able to work on it and
>>>>>> get the
>>>>>> compression test results until Wednesday now, as some things came
>>>>>> up. But
>>>>>> I'm wondering if I could get a good deal on getting a majority of
>>>>>> these
>>>>>> things fixed... like the headgasket, some oil leaks... chain and
>>>>>> sprokets
>>>>>> and tires.... I'm imagining the price list for the parts will be
>>>>>> something
>>>>>> like this...
>>>>>> Sprockets front and back - 60
>>>>>> Chain - 60
>>>>>> Headgasket - 50
>>>>>> Seals - 20
>>>>>> Tires - 260-300 installed from a stealership
>>>>>> (Does anyone know If you can get better deals on tires online?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone have any idea what labor might cost me on these things If I
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> someone else do it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looking at the diagrams, it doesent look too difficult to pull the
>>>>>> heads,
>>>>>> and I probably need to for valve adjustments anyway, But I just
>>>>>> wonder if it
>>>>>> would be more worth my time to let someone else do the work instead.
>>>>>> But It
>>>>>> might cost far too much and I need to do it myself. lol
>>>>>> Looks like the carbs are at least less of a worry than before.
>>>>>> Thanks again,
>>>>>> --John
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> From: "Randy Grein" <randygrein at comcast.net>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 9:38 PM
>>>>>> To: "Suzuki SV650 Mailing List" <sv650 at micapeak.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [SV650] Greetings and questions
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sounds like you still have crud in the gas. If it was sitting that
>>>>>> long
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you may need to drain the float bowels a few times if any water  is
>>>>>>> collecting. Also check the air filter & make sure something isn't
>>>>>>> nesting
>>>>>>> there. The right side cover, if it's from the outer cover is  an o
>>>>>>> ring; if
>>>>>>> the last owner pinched it it will leak like anything. If  you try
>>>>>>> to replace
>>>>>>> it clean the groove of oil & put a bit of grease in  it - sticky
>>>>>>> wheel
>>>>>>> grease is good - to hold the o ring in place while  installing. You
>>>>>>> might as
>>>>>>> well drain the oil at the same time; that way  you can replace the
>>>>>>> washer
>>>>>>> under the drain plug. I'm guilty as anyone  of not replacing it,
>>>>>>> but they
>>>>>>> don't reuse well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The loud clicking sounds bad - broken wheel bearing maybe? Grab the
>>>>>>>  wheel & back end and push/pull it hard sideways; if you can feel
>>>>>>> any  slop
>>>>>>> don't ride it - at all! A loose chain has nothing to do with the
>>>>>>> general
>>>>>>> lack of torque, that's still your carburation problem. At  least it
>>>>>>> idles
>>>>>>> but the choke (really it's an enrichener circuit, not  choke) cable
>>>>>>> needs to
>>>>>>> be cleaned. You can still find a cable lube kit  at some bike
>>>>>>> shops, the
>>>>>>> heart of the system is a blue anodized fixture  with a twist knob
>>>>>>> to clamp
>>>>>>> around a cable end. A hole in the rubber  accepts the spray nozzle
>>>>>>> of a
>>>>>>> lubricant can like WD-40 and is great  for cleaning and lubing
>>>>>>> cables. You
>>>>>>> will have to disassemble the left  handlebar switch, but it's not a
>>>>>>> big
>>>>>>> deal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good luck...
>>>>>>> Randy Grein, WMRRA #41
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 5, 2009, at 5:36 PM, John Treadwell wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, I got the gas in it, and the carbs cleaned, and it runs a bit
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> better. It will rev past 5/6k now, but sometimes it gets a little
>>>>>>>> hesitation
>>>>>>>> as it's approaching it. I suppose the gas needs to run through it
>>>>>>>> a bit, but
>>>>>>>> I've got an oil leak from the right side of  the bike, around the
>>>>>>>> larger
>>>>>>>> engine cover over there.... Possibly at  one of the plugs on the
>>>>>>>> bottom as
>>>>>>>> well. I'd like to fix those, as  theres quite a bit of oil
>>>>>>>> leaking. I'm
>>>>>>>> going to do a quick wheel  alignment, and chain tension, as my
>>>>>>>> brakes on the
>>>>>>>> back seem to  engage too early, And I'm getting a loud clicking
>>>>>>>> from the
>>>>>>>> back as I  take off. Also, the bike doesent seem to want to have
>>>>>>>> enough
>>>>>>>> torque  to take off from the lower rev range, I've gotta feather
>>>>>>>> the clutch,
>>>>>>>>  and rev it up too long I think, But I'm thinking that could just
>>>>>>>> be  really
>>>>>>>> loose chain tension.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The front tire looks cupped from what I can tell. I need to check
>>>>>>>> air
>>>>>>>> pressures. I torched and hammered out the kickstand itself a
>>>>>>>> little bit,
>>>>>>>> and now I'm thinking about bending the mounting piece a  bit, or
>>>>>>>> continuing
>>>>>>>> to whack on the kick stand itself.... the bike  will lean now...
>>>>>>>> but it's
>>>>>>>> still leaning a little too much for my  comfort. So I'm gonna go
>>>>>>>> throw that
>>>>>>>> bracket in my vice, and see if I  can bend it out a little.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also... the bike will idle however I want it to now... The choke
>>>>>>>> works
>>>>>>>> now.. it didn't when I got it. The choke is a little... hard  to
>>>>>>>> pull
>>>>>>>> though. I am going to check plugs and compression here in a  few
>>>>>>>> minutes as
>>>>>>>> well. I'll report back with those findings as well.
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> --John
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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