some advice re: downshifting in corner entry

dsapsis at comcast.net dsapsis at comcast.net
Wed May 11 14:16:34 PDT 2011


They have both been charity races organized by Jim Doyle. The first year there was a non-specific entry requirement for speed, and only a few SVs ((I was one as was Zoran and some others) made the grid. Last year, it was run what ya bring, and no SVs lined up. 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Burgess" <chris at chrisburgess.com> 
To: "Suzuki SV650 Mailing List" <sv650 at micapeak.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 1:43:04 PM 
Subject: Re: some advice re: downshifting in corner entry 

Good. What was the organization that held club motorcycle races at Laguna 
Seca in the past two years? I'd love to go to Laguna and race my SV. 

-Chris 

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 1:41 PM, vik anderson <eeeeek at gmail.com> wrote: 

> I know the difference between track days and racing, thank you. ;) 
> 
> I'm talking races, for licensed racers only and they were absolutley 
> advertized. There were good turnouts, mainly of AFM, WSMC and WERA racers. 
> Elena Meyers won the race in 2009 and if I remember correctly, Jeremy Toye 
> won in 2010. 
> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Chris Burgess <chris at chrisburgess.com 
> >wrote: 
> 
> > At Laguna? Really? They were never advertised. 
> > 
> > OH or are you saying track days == racing? 
> > 
> > -Chris 
> > 
> > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 1:09 PM, vik anderson <eeeeek at gmail.com> wrote: 
> > 
> > > <snip>But unless you are in MotoGP or AMA you ain't racing 
> there.</snip> 
> > > 
> > > Not true. For at least the last two years, there have been multiple 
> club 
> > > racing events there for bikes. Heck, they were even sound restriction 
> > free 
> > > days. 
> > > 
> > > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Chris Burgess < 
> chris at chrisburgess.com 
> > > >wrote: 
> > > 
> > > > I've been to Thunderhill and Laguna. Neither meet the term of 
> extreme 
> > > > braking...although Laguna's is getting closer. But unless you are in 
> > > > MotoGP 
> > > > or AMA you ain't racing there. 
> > > > 
> > > > And I added the caveat so you'd understand what I meant by the term. 
> > > > 
> > > > -Chris 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:51 PM, vik anderson <eeeeek at gmail.com> 
> > wrote: 
> > > > 
> > > > > I like the extra caveat "like Road Atlanta turn 10". You simply 
> said 
> > > > > extreme 
> > > > > braking, which would bring in: 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thunderhill, turn 14 
> > > > > Infineon, turn 9 
> > > > > Laguna Seca, turn 11 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Chris Burgess < 
> > > chris at chrisburgess.com 
> > > > > >wrote: 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > It doesn't. Name me one that is remotely like turn 10 at Road 
> > > Atlanta 
> > > > > > which 
> > > > > > is what turn 3 at Pacific Raceways is like (although not quite as 
> > > hard) 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > -Chris 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 11:51 AM, vik anderson <eeeeek at gmail.com 
> > 
> > > > wrote: 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > California has no extreme braking situations? Huh? 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Chris Burgess < 
> > > > > chris at chrisburgess.com 
> > > > > > > >wrote: 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Frankly a slipper isn't needed....it is nice sometimes to not 
> > > have 
> > > > to 
> > > > > > > think 
> > > > > > > > about controlling the clutch during extreme braking 
> situations 
> > > > (which 
> > > > > > > > California has none) but not needed. 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > But yeah...what's the issue. 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > -Chris 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Steve Robertson 
> > > > > > > > <srobertson at ssimicro.com>wrote: 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Well to start with, what problems are you having? 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Anyone on this list willing to spend a few minutes talking 
> > to 
> > > me 
> > > > > > about 
> > > > > > > > >> downshifting? Not street, just race corner entry 
> > > downshifting. 
> > > > > I'm 
> > > > > > > > really 
> > > > > > > > >> struggling with this on my z-built superbike. Obviously a 
> > > > slipper 
> > > > > > > > clutch is 
> > > > > > > > >> probably a good answer, but I'd like to learn how to do 
> this 
> > > > > better 
> > > > > > > > without 
> > > > > > > > >> the technology assist. 
> > > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > -- 
> > > > > > > > WERA #104 
> > > > > > > > OMRRA #104 
> > > > > > > > WMRRA #104 
> > > > > > > > http://www.burgiracing.com 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 2011 Sponsors 
> > > > > > > > KFG Racing - http://www.kfgracing.com 
> > > > > > > > Vortex Racing - http://www.vortexracing.com 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > -- 
> > > > > > > Vik 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > -- 
> > > > > > WERA #104 
> > > > > > OMRRA #104 
> > > > > > WMRRA #104 
> > > > > > http://www.burgiracing.com 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 2011 Sponsors 
> > > > > > KFG Racing - http://www.kfgracing.com 
> > > > > > Vortex Racing - http://www.vortexracing.com 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > -- 
> > > > > Vik 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > > WERA #104 
> > > > OMRRA #104 
> > > > WMRRA #104 
> > > > http://www.burgiracing.com 
> > > > 
> > > > 2011 Sponsors 
> > > > KFG Racing - http://www.kfgracing.com 
> > > > Vortex Racing - http://www.vortexracing.com 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Vik 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > WERA #104 
> > OMRRA #104 
> > WMRRA #104 
> > http://www.burgiracing.com 
> > 
> > 2011 Sponsors 
> > KFG Racing - http://www.kfgracing.com 
> > Vortex Racing - http://www.vortexracing.com 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Vik 
> 



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