some advice re: downshifting in corner entry

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Wed May 11 14:19:14 PDT 2011


There. Zoran said it. Burgess, you might want to get out before this gets silly :) 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Zoran" <zv30 at sbcglobal.net> 
To: "Suzuki SV650 Mailing List" <sv650 at micapeak.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 2:13:18 PM 
Subject: Re: some advice re: downshifting in corner entry 

No, because you need to qualify :) 
I did run that race on my sv and gsxr next day. 



Thanks, 

Zoran Vujasinovic 
TWF Racing 
775-786-4881 
www.twfracing.com 




On May 11, 2011, at 2:11 PM, Chris Burgess wrote: 

> Can I run my SV650 Superbike so I can experience all of that massive braking 
> into turn 11 at full speed instead of the nutured speed a stock pipe brings? 
> 
> In any case Laguna or T-Hill don't have any hard braking areas that compare 
> with turn 3 at Pacific Raceways and turn 10 at RA. Have you ever ridden 
> Pacific Raceways? 
> 
> -Chris 
> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 2:09 PM, vik anderson <eeeeek at gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
>> You or I could show up to this event and race. Your club racing license is 
>> all you needed. If it looks like club racing, is populated by club racers 
>> and quacks like club racing... 
>> 
>> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Chris Burgess <chris at chrisburgess.com 
>>> wrote: 
>> 
>>> Not a club level race event. But it is something other than AMA or 
>>> MotoGP.....so you have me on that. 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Aaron Turner <synfinatic at gmail.com> 
>>> wrote: 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> http://www.cyclenews.com/articles/road-racing/2010/06/22/monterey-challenge-announced 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Chris Burgess <chris at chrisburgess.com 
>>> 
>>>> wrote: 
>>>>> At Laguna? Really? They were never advertised. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> OH or are you saying track days == racing? 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Chris 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 1:09 PM, vik anderson <eeeeek at gmail.com> 
>>> wrote: 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> <snip>But unless you are in MotoGP or AMA you ain't racing 
>>> there.</snip> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Not true. For at least the last two years, there have been multiple 
>>> club 
>>>>>> racing events there for bikes. Heck, they were even sound 
>> restriction 
>>>> free 
>>>>>> days. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Chris Burgess < 
>>> chris at chrisburgess.com 
>>>>>>> wrote: 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I've been to Thunderhill and Laguna. Neither meet the term of 
>>> extreme 
>>>>>>> braking...although Laguna's is getting closer. But unless you are 
>>> in 
>>>>>>> MotoGP 
>>>>>>> or AMA you ain't racing there. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> And I added the caveat so you'd understand what I meant by the 
>> term. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -Chris 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:51 PM, vik anderson <eeeeek at gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote: 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I like the extra caveat "like Road Atlanta turn 10". You simply 
>>> said 
>>>>>>>> extreme 
>>>>>>>> braking, which would bring in: 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thunderhill, turn 14 
>>>>>>>> Infineon, turn 9 
>>>>>>>> Laguna Seca, turn 11 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Chris Burgess < 
>>>>>> chris at chrisburgess.com 
>>>>>>>>> wrote: 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> It doesn't. Name me one that is remotely like turn 10 at Road 
>>>>>> Atlanta 
>>>>>>>>> which 
>>>>>>>>> is what turn 3 at Pacific Raceways is like (although not quite 
>>> as 
>>>>>> hard) 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -Chris 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 11:51 AM, vik anderson < 
>>> eeeeek at gmail.com> 
>>>>>>> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> California has no extreme braking situations? Huh? 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Chris Burgess < 
>>>>>>>> chris at chrisburgess.com 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Frankly a slipper isn't needed....it is nice sometimes to 
>>> not 
>>>>>> have 
>>>>>>> to 
>>>>>>>>>> think 
>>>>>>>>>>> about controlling the clutch during extreme braking 
>>> situations 
>>>>>>> (which 
>>>>>>>>>>> California has none) but not needed. 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> But yeah...what's the issue. 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> -Chris 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Steve Robertson 
>>>>>>>>>>> <srobertson at ssimicro.com>wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Well to start with, what problems are you having? 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone on this list willing to spend a few minutes 
>>> talking 
>>>> to 
>>>>>> me 
>>>>>>>>> about 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> downshifting? Not street, just race corner entry 
>>>>>> downshifting. 
>>>>>>>> I'm 
>>>>>>>>>>> really 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> struggling with this on my z-built superbike. 
>> Obviously 
>>> a 
>>>>>>> slipper 
>>>>>>>>>>> clutch is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably a good answer, but I'd like to learn how to do 
>>>> this 
>>>>>>>> better 
>>>>>>>>>>> without 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the technology assist. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>> Vik 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -- 
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>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>> Vik 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -- 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Vik 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
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>> temporary 
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>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Vik 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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> 
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