some advice re: downshifting in corner entry

Jo Rhett jorhett at
Thu May 12 10:07:37 PDT 2011

>> On May 10, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Randy Grein wrote:
>>> As you have time while braking bang the correct number of downshifts with the clutch still in, then blip the throttle to get the engine near redline and EASE out the clutch.
>> Wow, okay, this is something I've never even thought of.  I always roll lightly on the throttle, just barely enough to get the engine working in the new gear.  I've never spun it up with a hard pull on the throttle towards redline.  Wow.
>> How do you do this while doing hard braking?  I'm having enough trouble lightly moving the throttle while braking.

On May 12, 2011, at 8:20 AM, Randy Grein wrote:
> This statement brings the problem into focus. New superbike motor, lots more compression and you're dialed into the supersport motor. I guess the answer is that during really hard braking I don't always do all of that (especially the list you had in an earlier post), so technique depends on the situation. Under really hard braking I'll hold off on downshifts until later in the brake chute, pulling in the clutch if necessary to keep wheel hop down. But keep in mind I'm not talking about a 'hard pull on the throttle', just a bigger blip. You HAVE to match engine speed to wheel speed on the downshift pretty close and that's easier to do around 6 grand than 10 grand.

Hm... not really.  Just to be clear, this superbike motor is 2 years old now although I missed most of last year due to surgery.  But it ain't shiny nor new, and I'm quite used to it.   If I ride it my old way it works just fine for me -- I'm just aware that I'm doing way too much on corner entry.

How do you position your hand to hold on the brake and blip at the same time?  Right now I'm rolling off and on the brake...

Jo Rhett /  velociRaptor Racing
#553 WERA / AFM

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