some advice re: downshifting in corner entry

Randy Grein randygrein at
Thu May 12 11:39:04 PDT 2011

Index and middle finger on the brake, hand rolled forward enough to do  
a good sized blip.
Randy Grein

On May 12, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Jo Rhett wrote:

>>> On May 10, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Randy Grein wrote:
>>>> As you have time while braking bang the correct number of  
>>>> downshifts with the clutch still in, then blip the throttle to  
>>>> get the engine near redline and EASE out the clutch.
>>> Wow, okay, this is something I've never even thought of.  I always  
>>> roll lightly on the throttle, just barely enough to get the engine  
>>> working in the new gear.  I've never spun it up with a hard pull  
>>> on the throttle towards redline.  Wow.
>>> How do you do this while doing hard braking?  I'm having enough  
>>> trouble lightly moving the throttle while braking.
> On May 12, 2011, at 8:20 AM, Randy Grein wrote:
>> This statement brings the problem into focus. New superbike motor,  
>> lots more compression and you're dialed into the supersport motor.  
>> I guess the answer is that during really hard braking I don't  
>> always do all of that (especially the list you had in an earlier  
>> post), so technique depends on the situation. Under really hard  
>> braking I'll hold off on downshifts until later in the brake chute,  
>> pulling in the clutch if necessary to keep wheel hop down. But keep  
>> in mind I'm not talking about a 'hard pull on the throttle', just a  
>> bigger blip. You HAVE to match engine speed to wheel speed on the  
>> downshift pretty close and that's easier to do around 6 grand than  
>> 10 grand.
> Hm... not really.  Just to be clear, this superbike motor is 2 years  
> old now although I missed most of last year due to surgery.  But it  
> ain't shiny nor new, and I'm quite used to it.   If I ride it my old  
> way it works just fine for me -- I'm just aware that I'm doing way  
> too much on corner entry.
> How do you position your hand to hold on the brake and blip at the  
> same time?  Right now I'm rolling off and on the brake...
> -- 
> Jo Rhett /  velociRaptor Racing
> #553 WERA / AFM

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