some advice re: downshifting in corner entry

Randy Grein randygrein at
Wed May 18 22:45:32 PDT 2011

Thinking about this a bit - it's one thing to SIT on the seat, another  
to use it when you're in the right spot. Sounds like you may be having  
placement issues, but I could be off. If so, keep in mind that you  
need to be in the right position ahead of time - then it's perfectly  
fine to rest on the seat. You'll feel tire grip better that way  
anyway. So, if this is anywhere near the problem you'll want to:

pop up
shift to the inside (hang off)
squeeze the brakes
tip in as you reduce brake pressure
touch a knee down and fold it up
get on the gas
hit your apex
straighten up as you add throttle
move to the center of the seat (raise your body using your legs) after  
you're more or less straight

Randy Grein

On May 17, 2011, at 11:00 AM, Jo Rhett wrote:

> On May 12, 2011, at 3:02 PM, matthew patton wrote:
>> Support upper body with your legs.
> This is where it is changing for me.  I used to stand hard on the  
> pegs and entirely support my body with the pegs.  However Ken Hill  
> has impressed on me that I can't go any faster this way (and he's  
> right) and convinced me to have weight on the seat to free up my  
> feet for moving around to be in the right place for corner entry.   
> Watching fast riders (AMA and WSBK, MotoGP) shows that this is  
> exactly what they do.
> This change put more weight back on the bars (which is where Ken  
> says it should be).  This has actually improved my corner entry and  
> exit and allowed me to get on the gas harder out of the corner than  
> before -- which is good.  But corner entry has gone to crap.  This  
> isn't about improving my hard braking, it's about recovering the  
> ability to brake smoothly at all.
> -- 
> Jo Rhett /  velociRaptor Racing
> #553 WERA / AFM

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