some advice re: downshifting in corner entry

Dave & Tracy Thomas dave193 at rogers.com
Thu May 19 19:49:30 PDT 2011


obviously you are not a novice and I hope you did not take my suggestion as 
so but when I struggle in the other sports that I play I always find that 
going back to the basics helps me get to were I want to go. Especially after 
going though a major style change. Or trying to learn a new skill. Dave

-----Original Message----- 
From: Jo Rhett
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 12:38 PM
To: Suzuki SV650 Mailing List
Subject: Re: some advice re: downshifting in corner entry

Thanks, Dave -- but I'm a bit past that point as a rider.  Depending on the 
corner, I do as much as 70% of my braking after the bike is turned in.

And again, this isn't a situation where I'm trying to go faster than before. 
It's a situation where I'm trying to get back to where I was before I made a 
change in body weight during braking.

On May 18, 2011, at 6:35 PM, Dave & Tracy Thomas wrote:
> I believe it was Kenny Roberts that said sometime you have to slow down to 
> go fast. I.E. charging into corners and late braking sometimes compresses 
> to much information for the rider, and upsets the balance of the bike. Try 
> to do most of your braking up right set your corner speed early and be in 
> the gear that you want to start accelerating out of the corner at the 
> apex. most important is to be smooth and consistent. Just a thought Dave
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Jo Rhett
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:02 PM
> To: Suzuki SV650 Mailing List
> Subject: Re: some advice re: downshifting in corner entry
>
> See my previous post on this.  I'm not trying to go faster, I'm trying to 
> recover to the same speed I had before making a change Ken Hill advised. 
> I'm down to within 2 seconds of my previous times, and I am faster out of 
> the corner, but I'm losing whole seconds on corner entry as compared to 
> before.
>
> On May 12, 2011, at 11:44 AM, vik anderson wrote:
>> You're looking ot go faster, right? You have a lot more to be gained by
>> going faster in the fast parts. You're not going fast enough that hard
>> braking is going to be paying you the biggest dividends. You need to 
>> worry a
>> lot more about your drive out of the corners.
>>
>> It sounds to me like you are making a classic mistake, which is trying to
>> make up time in hard braking zones. It's a lot of effort for not a lot of
>> return. Once you get down to 47's, then you will need to find a tenth of 
>> a
>> second here and another tenth there; but, when you are looking to drop 
>> eight
>> seconds, look for places where you can make up one or two seconds.
>>
>> You don't need a slipper clutch. You need to get on the throttle sooner
>> and power out of the corners. You need to hold that throttle absolutley
>> pinned pretty much everywhere you're not on the brakes.
>>
>> -- 
>> Vik
>
> -- 
> Jo Rhett /  velociRaptor Racing
> #553 WERA / AFM

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Jo Rhett /  velociRaptor Racing
#553 WERA / AFM 



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