GPZList Digest, Vol 29, Issue 1
Robert Bessara
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Wed Apr 1 12:19:28 PDT 2009
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> 1. selling as is, or parting off the upgrades? (andy burkard)
> 2. RE: GPS Mount (Jeffrey Walker)
> 3. Re: selling as is, or parting off the upgrades? (1KPerDay)
> 4. re: selling as is, or parting off (Drew Blanchard)
> 5. Re: selling as is, or parting off (Drew Blanchard)
> 6. Re: GPS Mount (schnowz)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:39:44 -0700 (PDT)
> From: andy burkard <andyburkard at yahoo.com>
> Subject: selling as is, or parting off the upgrades?
> To: gpzlist at micapeak.com
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> that is the question. after owning the GPZ for 10 years, i'm
> finally at the point of parting ways with it. I'm thinking the time
> may be right to "help the economy" and getting the new connie...
>
> so, the question now is to figure out whether i put it back to stock
> and ebay the parts, or try to sell as is, and then of course, for
> how much.
>
> i've not been following the auctions or anything too closely but
> figured, if sold stock, at best i'd see $2995, which i'd be ok with,
> and with goodies, i'd want something closer to $3500, which I'm sure
> i'd have a hard time getting.
>
> so, any demand for any of the following parts?
> 1. Corbin seat - custom fit for 5'10" rider, 32" inseam.
> 2. LSL with ZRX bar conversion
> 3. Genmar risers
> 4. Jardine 4-1 exhaust
> 5. Factory jet kit (stage 1)
> 6. Givi E36 bags with Euro style mounts
> 7. Givi tall screen
> 8. mirror extenders
>
> aside from above, upgrades that would stay on the bike
> 1. speed bleeders all around
> 2. fiamm freeway blaster horns
> 3. grip warmers
> 4. race tech front springs and gold valves
> 5. 47 tooth rear sprocket
> 6. LED indicator bulbs
> 7. stainless steel (black) bolt / screw kit
>
> in addition, the various parts i've collected which i'd not have a
> need for are:
> 1. used OEM rear shock
> 2. used 94 ZX9 rear shock
> 3. 3 side/rear plastic panels (2 left and 1 right, or the other way
> around, can't recall, but for whatever reason, i collected 3 of them)
> 4. 2 wind screens. depending on what i do with the bike, could be 1
> clear stock, 1 black stock, 1 givi tall black. the blacks were
> painted black on the inside
> 5. mirrors
>
> bike has 46k miles on it and has been well maintained. only downed
> once by previous owner in a parking lot tip over, and i only hit 1
> turkey which damn near took me off the bike...
>
> any thoughts?
> andy b
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:08:36 -0700
> From: "Jeffrey Walker" <walkerjl at charter.net>
> Subject: RE: GPS Mount
> To: <gpzlist at micapeak.com>
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> This is what I recommend: Get yourself this ball:
> http://www.motorcyclelarry.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=
> 62 Then you remove one of the 4 allen cap bolts that bolt the
> handlebar
> risers to the steering (The black recessed ones, two on each side).
> Purchase a longer, stainless steel allen bolt with a rounded top, a
> stainless washer and lock washer and bolt the ram ball there. Just
> torque
> the new bolt the same as the other bolts with a bit of blue Loctite
> for
> peace of mind. I used the bolts that are closest to you as you sit
> on the
> bike, and angled the ball towards the center. I have both my GPS
> and my
> radar detector mounted in this way, one on each side. I'll take a
> picture
> of it later.
>
> I have also seen this type of RAM ball used, but it has an 11mm hole
> compared to a 9mm hole on the angled ball:
> http://www.motorcyclelarry.com/images/ram-b-342_01.jpg so I wasn't
> inclined
> to try it at the time as I didn't feel it would be as secure. But
> using a
> larger fender washer and a locking washer, it would probably be OK.
> The
> advantage of this type of ball is that it would allow more
> adjustment out of
> your RAM arm. With the angled ball, you can't adjust the RAM arm
> around the
> same angle extremes in some directions. I like to have the GPS
> adjusted
> just so when I have my tankbag on so I can see the instrument
> cluster, GPS,
> and not interfere with the tankbag as you turn the handlebars. I
> use a
> standard length, 3" long RAM arm to my GPS mount. My GPS is a
> Garmin 2720.
> I use the Garmin motorcycle mount and power cable, bolted to a
> standard RAM
> ball, the kind with the diamond shaped base and two small bolts.
> Both my
> GPS and Escort 8500 radar is powered by the bike.
>
> My radar detector is mounted in a Legal Speeding radar box:
> http://www.legalspeeding.com/images/Radar_Box_pics/Slide3.JPG with a
> Marc
> Parnes Visual Alert on top of that. My next farkle is to try and
> find a way
> to pipe my radar detector, GPS, and iPod into my earphones all at
> once.
>
> Jeff (I'll try and take pictures by tomorrow).
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:41:43 -0400
> From: "schnowz" <schnowz at att.net>
> Subject: GPS Mount
> To: <gpzlist at micapeak.com>
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>
> Anyone have a reccomendation on Garmin mounts for the Geeper?
> Theres a plug in the 10mm hole to the left of the Clutch
> reservoir,
>
> I was thinking that may work.
> Dunno which Ram mount would fit though. The Nuvi 750
> has a
> .671 diameter ball and the Ram mount RAM-B-349U has a 1" ball.
> http://www.motorcyclelarry.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=
> 193
>
> TIA
>
>
>
>
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:34:55 -0500
> From: Julian Solomensky <jsolo at solo-tek.com>
> Subject: Re: GPS Mount
> To: "schnowz" <schnowz at att.net>
> Cc: gpzlist at micapeak.com
> Message-ID: <6625084.20090330213455 at solo-tek.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Hello schnowz,
>
> The garmin nuvi mount IS NOT designed to be used on a bike. Their
> ball is
> not the same as a rammount ball setup.
>
> Were you going to use a wraparound cradle?
>
> Monday, March 30, 2009, 8:41:43 PM, you wrote:
>
>> Anyone have a reccomendation on Garmin mounts for the Geeper?
>> Theres a plug in the 10mm hole to the left of the Clutch
> reservoir,
>> I was thinking that may work.
>> Dunno which Ram mount would fit though. The Nuvi 750
>> has a
>> .671 diameter ball and the Ram mount RAM-B-349U has a 1" ball.
>>
> http://www.motorcyclelarry.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=
> 193
>
>> TIA
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I stuck the 1" RAM ball on the 1/4-20 threaded post in the hole in the
> center of the steering head nut. Don't even have to run the tap drill
> through it, just tap it. Lock it down with a nut and washer and
> you're done.
>
> Steve in Western NY
> Hot on the trail of an Aprilia
> '96 GPZ1100
> '08 KLR 650
> "You Can't Fix Stupid", Ron White
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:31:18 -0600
> From: 1KPerDay <1kperday at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: selling as is, or parting off the upgrades?
> Cc: gpzlist at micapeak.com
> Message-ID:
> <3ddf36ea0903311431j585f6e5eobd224846dade7a11 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> If you could get three grand for it, I'd do it. But I seriously doubt
> you will. I've had my 2003 ZZR1200 listed at about $4K for 5 months
> and have had nary a nibble.
>
> If you decide to part it out, get friendly with your UPS driver and
> get a scale/tape/packing material, etc. You MIGHT eventually make more
> money than you would by selling it outright, but it'll take months or
> years, if ever. Personally I'd rather have the room in my garage and
> not have to deal with the hassle of shipping, etc. You should be able
> to sell the upgrades here or on ebay for reasonably good prices, but
> remember that this bike is ~14 years old or so and it was only sold
> here for 2 years... so we, the elite, are few in number. At this point
> I'd be happy with a $2K trade-in on the bike but that's just because I
> can't get the forks working properly and I have no time or energy to
> try again. In any case, if the bike were in really stellar, low-miles
> condition you might get close to 3K for it but don't hold your breath,
> IMO. You might make a deal on the Connie and then see what the
> dealership will give you in trade-in value. If it's anywhere close to
> KBB trade-in value I'd jump on it, personally.
>
> YMMV, etc.
>
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 12:39 PM, andy burkard
> <andyburkard at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> any thoughts?
>> andy b
>>
>
> --
> Utah Jeff
> '96 SheePz1100
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:26:50 -0400
> From: Drew Blanchard <drewblanchard at gmavt.net>
> Subject: re: selling as is, or parting off
> To: gpzlist at micapeak.com
> Message-ID: <49D2A6BA.1040705 at gmavt.net>
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>
> Greetings!
>
> I singed up for the GpZList about 8 months ago, more out of nostalgia
> than anything. I used to own a '95 GpZ (red, of course, because
> they go
> faster) and loved that bike more than any other before or since. I
> put
> more than 13,000 miles on it in my second year of ownership, which is
> saying something when the riding season is only 7 months long in
> northern NY. Sadly, in '99 the GpZ and I parted company on a
> decreasing
> radius curve and a fresh patch of asphalt. The bike went into a
> ravine,
> I went into a tree. Broke a number of bones and wadded the bike
> into a
> ball.
>
> Fast forward many years and once again I yearn for my old GpZ. This
> is
> despite the fact I currently own the bike of my dreams: a '95 Triumph
> Super III (one of only 250 verified units ever imported and
> beeeeeeauuutiful). My problem is this: I love to /look/ at the
> Triumph, but I loved to /ride/ the GpZ. So I've begun looking,
> knowing
> I can't afford to keep two bikes (well, /three/, if you count my
> wife's
> Shadow). I've been amazed to discover the GpZ's are even more rare
> (sale-wise, that is) than my Triumph. I realize some of this is the
> nature of collector's items, and the Super III's often change hands
> and
> go into collections; but people seem to hold on to their GpZ's for
> dear
> life.
>
> Andy, I'd love to give you what you're asking for the GpZ, but the
> economics simply aren't there. It' a crappy market. My Triumph has
> been a labor of love (more than $1800 and 100 hours invested in the
> last
> year, all fully documented) and I know there's no way I can get what
> it's really worth. But that hasn't stopped me from contacting some
> people, just in case. I'm just unwilling to sell the Triumph
> without an
> equally prized toy to take its place.
>
> If you do decide to trade your bike and take the price hit, I could
> probably find the money to give you more than a dealer would. Unless
> you'd like to work out some sort of deal with a Super III ...
>
> Drew
> ------------------------------------
>
> may be right to "help the economy" and getting the new connie...
>
> so, the question now is to figure out whether i put it back to stock
> and ebay the parts, or try to sell as is, and then of course, for
> how much.
>
> i've not been following the auctions or anything too closely but
> figured, if sold stock, at best i'd see $2995, which i'd be ok with,
> and with goodies, i'd want something closer to $3500, which I'm sure
> i'd have a hard time getting.
>
> so, any demand for any of the following parts?
> 1. Corbin seat - custom fit for 5'10" rider, 32" inseam.
> 2. LSL with ZRX bar conversion
> 3. Genmar risers
> 4. Jardine 4-1 exhaust
> 5. Factory jet kit (stage 1)
> 6. Givi E36 bags with Euro style mounts
> 7. Givi tall screen
> 8. mirror extenders
>
> aside from above, upgrades that would stay on the bike
> 1. speed bleeders all around
> 2. fiamm freeway blaster horns
> 3. grip warmers
> 4. race tech front springs and gold valves
> 5. 47 tooth rear sprocket
> 6. LED indicator bulbs
> 7. stainless steel (black) bolt / screw kit
>
> in addition, the various parts i've collected which i'd not have a
> need for are:
> 1. used OEM rear shock
> 2. used 94 ZX9 rear shock
> 3. 3 side/rear plastic panels (2 left and 1 right, or the other way
> around, can't recall, but for whatever reason, i collected 3 of them)
> 4. 2 wind screens. depending on what i do with the bike, could be 1
> clear stock, 1 black stock, 1 givi tall black. the blacks were
> painted black on the inside
> 5. mirrors
>
> bike has 46k miles on it and has been well maintained. only downed
> once by previous owner in a parking lot tip over, and i only hit 1
> turkey which damn near took me off the bike...
>
> any thoughts?
> andy b
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:42:17 -0400
> From: Drew Blanchard <drewblanchard at gmavt.net>
> Subject: Re: selling as is, or parting off
> To: gpzlist at micapeak.com
> Message-ID: <49D2AA59.60108 at gmavt.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Sorry, I /signed/ up for the list. Very sleep deprived here in
> Vermont.
>
> Drew
> -----------------
>
> Drew Blanchard wrote:
>> Greetings!
>>
>> I singed up for the GpZList about 8 months ago, more out of nostalgia
>> than anything. I used to own a '95 GpZ (red, of course, because they
>> go faster) and loved that bike more than any other before or
>> since. I
>> put more than 13,000 miles on it in my second year of ownership,
>> which
>> is saying something when the riding season is only 7 months long in
>> northern NY. Sadly, in '99 the GpZ and I parted company on a
>> decreasing radius curve and a fresh patch of asphalt. The bike went
>> into a ravine, I went into a tree. Broke a number of bones and
>> wadded
>> the bike into a ball.
>>
>> Fast forward many years and once again I yearn for my old GpZ. This
>> is despite the fact I currently own the bike of my dreams: a '95
>> Triumph Super III (one of only 250 verified units ever imported and
>> beeeeeeauuutiful). My problem is this: I love to /look/ at the
>> Triumph, but I loved to /ride/ the GpZ. So I've begun looking,
>> knowing I can't afford to keep two bikes (well, /three/, if you count
>> my wife's Shadow). I've been amazed to discover the GpZ's are even
>> more rare (sale-wise, that is) than my Triumph. I realize some of
>> this is the nature of collector's items, and the Super III's often
>> change hands and go into collections; but people seem to hold on to
>> their GpZ's for dear life.
>> Andy, I'd love to give you what you're asking for the GpZ, but the
>> economics simply aren't there. It' a crappy market. My Triumph has
>> been a labor of love (more than $1800 and 100 hours invested in the
>> last year, all fully documented) and I know there's no way I can get
>> what it's really worth. But that hasn't stopped me from contacting
>> some people, just in case. I'm just unwilling to sell the Triumph
>> without an equally prized toy to take its place.
>>
>> If you do decide to trade your bike and take the price hit, I could
>> probably find the money to give you more than a dealer would. Unless
>> you'd like to work out some sort of deal with a Super III ...
>>
>> Drew
>> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:11:27 -0400
> From: "schnowz" <schnowz at att.net>
> Subject: Re: GPS Mount
> To: <gpzer at copper.net>
> Cc: gpzlist at micapeak.com
> Message-ID: <670B01141C814A98AD41C1FAE32C08D3 at xxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8";
> reply-type=original
>
> Thanks Pete..Looks like it may work..
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <gpzer at copper.net>
> To: "schnowz" <schnowz at att.net>
> Cc: <gpzlist at micapeak.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:16 PM
> Subject: Re: GPS Mount
>
>
>> Looks like they make something.
>>
>> http://www.whitehorsepress.com/index.php?cPath=171_176
>>
>>
>> --- schnowz at att.net wrote:
>>
>> From: "schnowz" <schnowz at att.net>
>> To: <gpzlist at micapeak.com>
>> Subject: GPS Mount
>> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:41:43 -0400
>>
>> Anyone have a reccomendation on Garmin mounts for the Geeper?
>> Theres a plug in the 10mm hole to the left of the Clutch
>> reservoir,
>> I was thinking that may work.
>> Dunno which Ram mount would fit though. The Nuvi 750
>> has a
>> .671 diameter ball and the Ram mount RAM-B-349U has a 1" ball.
>> http://www.motorcyclelarry.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=193
>>
>> TIA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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