Engine question

Dave Daniels dwaynedaniels at sbcglobal.net
Sat May 30 05:26:53 PDT 2009


Sounds like the clutch is working as it should to me. 

--- On Fri, 5/29/09, Jonathon Jay <annihilator1100 at hotmail.com> wrote:


From: Jonathon Jay <annihilator1100 at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Engine question
To: shampson at gmx.co.uk, "Kawasaki GPZ1100 discussion" <gpzlist at micapeak.com>
Date: Friday, May 29, 2009, 4:18 PM



It spun in neutral and with the lever in.

It spun in gear with the lever in.

It would not spin in gear with the lever out.



I didn't suspect it started as a broken ring, I'm hoping the tow didn't snap one. If it were a stuck ring sounds like time to hone the bore anyway. If that's the case, I'm gonna have to run the bike as is until next summer and do a light rebuild. Damn, only 5000 miles on the motor!



As far as running, the carbs are off but it did fire up with a shot of ether.









> Clutch lever out - gearbox in neutral the rear wheel will spin by hand.
> Clutch lever out - gearbox in 1st or any other gear the rear wheel will not
> spin easily by hand.
> Clutch lever in - gearbox in neutral the rear wheel will spin by hand.
> Clutch lever in - gearbox in 1st or any other gear the rear wheel will not
> spin easily by hand.
> 
> If the clutch was initially seized then the wheel would spin if in neutral.
> If it did not spin in neutral then it was gearbox seizure.
> 
> I doubt it would be a broken ring, more likely a seized ring which the tow
> has cleared. However it may not of been to kind to the cylinder bores if it
> was.
> 
> Is the motor running now?
> 
> 
> Steve
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gpzlist-bounces at micapeak.com [mailto:gpzlist-bounces at micapeak.com] On
> Behalf Of Jonathon Jay
> Sent: 29 May 2009 20:13
> To: dwaynedaniels at sbcglobal.net; Kawasaki GPZ1100 discussion;
> johnsoliday at msn.com
> Subject: RE: Engine question
> 
> 
> The rear wheel would turn uf it was in gear with the lever pulled or it was
> in nuetral.
> 
> Regards- 
> 
> J
> 
> What's The Difference Between Ignorance And Apathy?
> ~ I Don't Know And I Don't Care ~
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 10:15:52 -0700
> > From: dwaynedaniels at sbcglobal.net
> > Subject: RE: Engine question
> > To: annihilator1100 at hotmail.com; gpzlist at micapeak.com; 
> > johnsoliday at msn.com
> > 
> > Had to be either the engine was seized or the tranny was seized. I'm not
> sure how the tranny may have been siezed up unless there was something
> caught in the teeth of a some gears. 
> > 
> > --- On Fri, 5/29/09, John Soliday <johnsoliday at msn.com> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > From: John Soliday <johnsoliday at msn.com>
> > Subject: RE: Engine question
> > To: "'Jonathon Jay'" <annihilator1100 at hotmail.com>, "'Kawasaki GPZ1100 
> > discussion'" <gpzlist at micapeak.com>
> > Date: Friday, May 29, 2009, 11:53 AM
> > 
> > 
> > If the clutch plates were stuck together the rear wheel would still 
> > turn if in neutral. Hard to believe a piston ring would hold the rear 
> > wheel unless it was already broken and jammed in the cylinder. 
> > Doesn't sound likely but I can't think off hand of what else it would
> be...
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gpzlist-bounces at micapeak.com 
> > [mailto:gpzlist-bounces at micapeak.com] On Behalf Of Jonathon Jay
> > Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 4:22 AM
> > To: Kawasaki GPZ1100 discussion
> > Subject: Engine question
> > 
> > 
> > It's late at night and I can't sleep. Do you all remember my e mail a 
> > couple of weeks ago regarding what I thought was a stuck clutch?
> > 
> > Perhaps someone can answer this:
> > 
> > The rear wheel would not turn with the clutch lever released out.
> > 
> > When I pulled the clutch lever in, the rear wheel would spin no problem.
> > 
> > If this was a stuck clutch would the position of the lever being 
> > pulled in or out even matter?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I'm starting to think that I had a stuck piston ring. Am I wrong? I 
> > got whatever it was unstuck by pulling the bike with my truck at 5-10 
> > mph and repeatedly releasing the clutch lever. Now I'm worried I may 
> > have snapped a piston ring.
> > 
> > Please someone explain to me how these assemblies work in relation to 
> > turning the rear wheel. I really hope it wasn't an internal engine 
> > thing, but if it was, perhaps the 15 or 20 releases on the lever is 
> > what it needed and I didn't break something?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Input please, so I can sleep better.
> > 
> > Regards-
> > 
> > J
> > 
> > What's The Difference Between Ignorance And Apathy?
> > ~ I Don't Know And I Don't Care ~
> > 
> > 
> > 
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