From arthjohnson270 at gmail.com  Sat May 18 06:14:20 2024
From: arthjohnson270 at gmail.com (Art Johnson)
Date: Sat, 18 May 2024 07:14:20 -0600
Subject: Tires
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What’s the tyre you recommend on your GPZ moto?


From pmheimjr at gmail.com  Sat May 18 06:24:00 2024
From: pmheimjr at gmail.com (Paul Heim)
Date: Sat, 18 May 2024 08:24:00 -0500
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I like the Michelin Pilot Road GT’s. Mine are kind of old, like maybe PR3? They are really good in rain. But let me tell you about my preferences for motor oil…..
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From dominatr37 at optonline.net  Sat May 18 08:44:48 2024
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I've always used Bridgestone sport touring tires. I've never had any complaints. I think I have T 31's on there now, iirc. Ralph L Angelo JrAuthor of Cool Stuff Http://tinyurl.com/ralphsamazon2
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From bill at cherryriver.com  Sat May 18 12:15:34 2024
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Date: Sat, 18 May 2024 14:15:34 -0500
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The Michelin series is now just called "Road", and the current version 
is "Road 6".  It's hard to imagine a better tire, especially in the 
rain.  And they last.

My GPZ had Bridgestone Battlax tires its whole life but if I still had 
it, it would get Road 6s nowadays.

However, an honorable mention goes to Pirelli Angel GTs.  I had a set on 
my VFR and they were probably the equal of the Michelin Road 5s that had 
been on there previously and they went 13,000 miles before I finished 
them off on a hot track day.

My Blackbird came with the Pirelli Angel STs; not sure what the 
difference is, but they are doing a great job on this very fast 
motorcycle (that more or less replaces the GPZ, even the same color).

Bill Zeller
Lemont, IL

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> I like the Michelin Pilot Road GT’s. Mine are kind of old, like maybe PR3? They are really good in rain. But let me tell you about my preferences for motor oil…..
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> I've always used Bridgestone sport touring tires. I've never had any complaints. I think I have T 31's on there now, iirc. Ralph L Angelo JrAuthor of Cool Stuff Http://tinyurl.com/ralphsamazon2
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From af at syd.de  Sat May 18 12:40:31 2024
From: af at syd.de (Alexander Finger)
Date: Sat, 18 May 2024 19:40:31 +0000
Subject: She starts and dies
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Oh Wisdom of the group

The geeper has been resting for a looooooooong time in the garage. I hooked up the battery to a good charger so she started immediately.
Runs on choke, revs up, I pull out the choke, give a bit of throttle and off she goes. Pattern repeats – she starts, revs up, choke out, a bit of throttle – engine dies.

I added some fresh fuel, that made everything better but still, without choke she goes off.

Any hints?

All the best
Alex


From gpz1100abs at gmail.com  Sat May 18 13:53:17 2024
From: gpz1100abs at gmail.com (Jens Pedersen)
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Bridgestone T31's for mee too.

lør. 18. maj 2024 15.14 skrev Art Johnson <arthjohnson270 at gmail.com>:

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From pmheimjr at gmail.com  Sun May 19 08:25:46 2024
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I’m not sure of the cause but I would look for a bad vacuum hose and check condition of the carb diaphragms. I had slides that were stuck on one bike and I think it behaved as you describe.
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> On May 18, 2024, at 2:40 PM, Alexander Finger <af at syd.de> wrote:
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> 
> 
> Oh Wisdom of the group
> 
> The geeper has been resting for a looooooooong time in the garage. I hooked up the battery to a good charger so she started immediately.
> Runs on choke, revs up, I pull out the choke, give a bit of throttle and off she goes. Pattern repeats – she starts, revs up, choke out, a bit of throttle – engine dies.
> 
> I added some fresh fuel, that made everything better but still, without choke she goes off.
> 
> Any hints?
> 
> All the best
> Alex
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Agree, check for air leaks at carb boot clamps, vac hoses, carb manometer caps. Prolly need carb rack removal for a teardown/inspection/clean.
My Gpz has a higher rpm, rougher idle once warmed up. Considering a takeoff inspection. All those flexy connections are closing in on 30 yrs age.


> On May 19, 2024, at 9:26 AM, Paul Heim <pmheimjr at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I’m not sure of the cause but I would look for a bad vacuum hose and check condition of the carb diaphragms. I had slides that were stuck on one bike and I think it behaved as you describe.
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On May 18, 2024, at 2:40 PM, Alexander Finger <af at syd.de> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Oh Wisdom of the group
>> 
>> The geeper has been resting for a looooooooong time in the garage. I hooked up the battery to a good charger so she started immediately.
>> Runs on choke, revs up, I pull out the choke, give a bit of throttle and off she goes. Pattern repeats – she starts, revs up, choke out, a bit of throttle – engine dies.
>> 
>> I added some fresh fuel, that made everything better but still, without choke she goes off.
>> 
>> Any hints?
>> 
>> All the best
>> Alex
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From scapco at ecentral.com  Mon May 20 05:21:41 2024
From: scapco at ecentral.com (Charles Scappaticci)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 08:21:41 -0400
Subject: She starts and dies
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Alex,

It sounds like a set of gummed up carbs to me.  I would check as the
others have mentioned, but if you don't find anything, it probably needs a
carb cleaning, those pilot jets clog up easily after sitting a long time.

Charles Scappaticci

On Sat, May 18, 2024 at 3:40 PM Alexander Finger <af at syd.de> wrote:

>
>
> Oh Wisdom of the group
>
> The geeper has been resting for a looooooooong time in the garage. I
> hooked up the battery to a good charger so she started immediately.
> Runs on choke, revs up, I pull out the choke, give a bit of throttle and
> off she goes. Pattern repeats – she starts, revs up, choke out, a bit of
> throttle – engine dies.
>
> I added some fresh fuel, that made everything better but still, without
> choke she goes off.
>
> Any hints?
>
> All the best
> Alex
>
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From af at syd.de  Mon May 20 05:23:44 2024
From: af at syd.de (Alexander Finger)
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Thanks to all of you..my initial thought was "carbs" but as I have never worked on them..it'll be a nice weekend project, I guess 😲

Alex

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Alex,

It sounds like a set of gummed up carbs to me.  I would check as the others have mentioned, but if you don't find anything, it probably needs a carb cleaning, those pilot jets clog up easily after sitting a long time.

Charles Scappaticci

On Sat, May 18, 2024 at 3:40 PM Alexander Finger <af at syd.de> wrote:

>
>
> Oh Wisdom of the group
>
> The geeper has been resting for a looooooooong time in the garage. I 
> hooked up the battery to a good charger so she started immediately.
> Runs on choke, revs up, I pull out the choke, give a bit of throttle 
> and off she goes. Pattern repeats – she starts, revs up, choke out, a 
> bit of throttle – engine dies.
>
> I added some fresh fuel, that made everything better but still, 
> without choke she goes off.
>
> Any hints?
>
> All the best
> Alex
>
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From pmheimjr at gmail.com  Mon May 20 06:49:12 2024
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It will be a nice project getting them out and cleaning them. Have some special words ready for when you reinstall them. And be sure to attach the fuel line before you mount them. I wish you luck.
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> On May 20, 2024, at 7:24 AM, Alexander Finger <af at syd.de> wrote:
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> Thanks to all of you..my initial thought was "carbs" but as I have never worked on them..it'll be a nice weekend project, I guess 😲
> 
> Alex
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> 
> Alex,
> 
> It sounds like a set of gummed up carbs to me.  I would check as the others have mentioned, but if you don't find anything, it probably needs a carb cleaning, those pilot jets clog up easily after sitting a long time.
> 
> Charles Scappaticci
> 
>> On Sat, May 18, 2024 at 3:40 PM Alexander Finger <af at syd.de> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Oh Wisdom of the group
>> 
>> The geeper has been resting for a looooooooong time in the garage. I
>> hooked up the battery to a good charger so she started immediately.
>> Runs on choke, revs up, I pull out the choke, give a bit of throttle
>> and off she goes. Pattern repeats – she starts, revs up, choke out, a
>> bit of throttle – engine dies.
>> 
>> I added some fresh fuel, that made everything better but still,
>> without choke she goes off.
>> 
>> Any hints?
>> 
>> All the best
>> Alex
>> 
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From af at syd.de  Mon May 20 06:57:38 2024
From: af at syd.de (Alexander Finger)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 13:57:38 +0000
Subject: She starts and dies
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When it's inconvenient I curse in English.
Nuisances are commented upon in German.
When I curse in French, you might get electrocuted when being too close..



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It will be a nice project getting them out and cleaning them. Have some special words ready for when you reinstall them. And be sure to attach the fuel line before you mount them. I wish you luck.
Sent from my iPad

> On May 20, 2024, at 7:24 AM, Alexander Finger <af at syd.de> wrote:
>
> Thanks to all of you..my initial thought was "carbs" but as I have never worked on them..it'll be a nice weekend project, I guess 😲
>
> Alex
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: GPZList <gpzlist-bounces at lists.micapeak.com> On Behalf Of Charles Scappaticci
> Sent: Montag, 20. Mai 2024 14:22
> To: Alexander Finger <af at syd.de>
> Subject: Re: She starts and dies
>
> Alex,
>
> It sounds like a set of gummed up carbs to me.  I would check as the others have mentioned, but if you don't find anything, it probably needs a carb cleaning, those pilot jets clog up easily after sitting a long time.
>
> Charles Scappaticci
>
>> On Sat, May 18, 2024 at 3:40 PM Alexander Finger <af at syd.de> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Oh Wisdom of the group
>>
>> The geeper has been resting for a looooooooong time in the garage. I
>> hooked up the battery to a good charger so she started immediately.
>> Runs on choke, revs up, I pull out the choke, give a bit of throttle
>> and off she goes. Pattern repeats – she starts, revs up, choke out, a
>> bit of throttle – engine dies.
>>
>> I added some fresh fuel, that made everything better but still,
>> without choke she goes off.
>>
>> Any hints?
>>
>> All the best
>> Alex
>>
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From scapco at ecentral.com  Mon May 20 07:29:29 2024
From: scapco at ecentral.com (Charles Scappaticci)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 10:29:29 -0400
Subject: She starts and dies
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Alex,

The rubber pieces are still available from Kawasaki for both sides, I would
recommend replacing both with new, softer ones to make your life a lot
easier and to avoid air leaks from old, hard rubber.

Charles S.

On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 9:57 AM Alexander Finger <af at syd.de> wrote:

> When it's inconvenient I curse in English.
> Nuisances are commented upon in German.
> When I curse in French, you might get electrocuted when being too close..
>
>
>
> Sent from Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
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> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2024 3:49:12 PM
> To: Alexander Finger <af at syd.de>
> Subject: Re: She starts and dies
>
> It will be a nice project getting them out and cleaning them. Have some
> special words ready for when you reinstall them. And be sure to attach the
> fuel line before you mount them. I wish you luck.
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On May 20, 2024, at 7:24 AM, Alexander Finger <af at syd.de> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks to all of you..my initial thought was "carbs" but as I have
> never worked on them..it'll be a nice weekend project, I guess 😲
> >
> > Alex
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: GPZList <gpzlist-bounces at lists.micapeak.com> On Behalf Of Charles
> Scappaticci
> > Sent: Montag, 20. Mai 2024 14:22
> > To: Alexander Finger <af at syd.de>
> > Subject: Re: She starts and dies
> >
> > Alex,
> >
> > It sounds like a set of gummed up carbs to me.  I would check as the
> others have mentioned, but if you don't find anything, it probably needs a
> carb cleaning, those pilot jets clog up easily after sitting a long time.
> >
> > Charles Scappaticci
> >
> >> On Sat, May 18, 2024 at 3:40 PM Alexander Finger <af at syd.de> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Oh Wisdom of the group
> >>
> >> The geeper has been resting for a looooooooong time in the garage. I
> >> hooked up the battery to a good charger so she started immediately.
> >> Runs on choke, revs up, I pull out the choke, give a bit of throttle
> >> and off she goes. Pattern repeats – she starts, revs up, choke out, a
> >> bit of throttle – engine dies.
> >>
> >> I added some fresh fuel, that made everything better but still,
> >> without choke she goes off.
> >>
> >> Any hints?
> >>
> >> All the best
> >> Alex
> >>
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From wkdenton at verizon.net  Mon May 20 07:30:12 2024
From: wkdenton at verizon.net (William K Denton)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 10:30:12 -0400
Subject: She starts and dies
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Re carb cleaning, BTDT 2X in the 26 years I've had my '96 GPz. It would have happened more frequently if I wasn't so religiously dedicated to adding StaBil to every tankful of the E10 garbage fuel that passes for gasoline these days.

The pilot cleaning is the easy part. In my experience, the most finicky part of reinstallation is getting the two inner rubber airbox boots and circular spring retainers back onto the carb intakes. If you need to curse while doing this, I'll understand and am available to discuss if you need guidance, reassurance, or simply someone to curse with.

Good luck,
Bill in Yardley, PA


William K. Denton
Lazarus CycleWorks
“We Breathe New Life into Old Bikes”
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267-980-7788 office/cell



-----Original Message-----
From: GPZList [mailto:gpzlist-bounces at lists.micapeak.com] On Behalf Of Alexander Finger
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2024 9:58 AM
To: Bill Denton
Subject: Re: She starts and dies

When it's inconvenient I curse in English.
Nuisances are commented upon in German.
When I curse in French, you might get electrocuted when being too close..



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Sent: Monday, May 20, 2024 3:49:12 PM
To: Alexander Finger <af at syd.de>
Subject: Re: She starts and dies

It will be a nice project getting them out and cleaning them. Have some special words ready for when you reinstall them. And be sure to attach the fuel line before you mount them. I wish you luck.
Sent from my iPad

> On May 20, 2024, at 7:24 AM, Alexander Finger <af at syd.de> wrote:
>
> Thanks to all of you..my initial thought was "carbs" but as I have never worked on them..it'll be a nice weekend project, I guess 😲
>
> Alex
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: GPZList <gpzlist-bounces at lists.micapeak.com> On Behalf Of Charles Scappaticci
> Sent: Montag, 20. Mai 2024 14:22
> To: Alexander Finger <af at syd.de>
> Subject: Re: She starts and dies
>
> Alex,
>
> It sounds like a set of gummed up carbs to me.  I would check as the others have mentioned, but if you don't find anything, it probably needs a carb cleaning, those pilot jets clog up easily after sitting a long time.
>
> Charles Scappaticci
>
>> On Sat, May 18, 2024 at 3:40 PM Alexander Finger <af at syd.de> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Oh Wisdom of the group
>>
>> The geeper has been resting for a looooooooong time in the garage. I
>> hooked up the battery to a good charger so she started immediately.
>> Runs on choke, revs up, I pull out the choke, give a bit of throttle
>> and off she goes. Pattern repeats – she starts, revs up, choke out, a
>> bit of throttle – engine dies.
>>
>> I added some fresh fuel, that made everything better but still,
>> without choke she goes off.
>>
>> Any hints?
>>
>> All the best
>> Alex
>>
_________________________________________


From c_p_bowen at yahoo.com  Mon May 20 09:44:44 2024
From: c_p_bowen at yahoo.com (Chris Bowen)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 16:44:44 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: She starts and dies
In-Reply-To: <91C0ED8A-CF51-4A85-BA29-3A0558C44F4A@gmail.com>
References: <GV0P278MB1254278EDDB25159C0B72F2ABCE92@GV0P278MB1254.CHEP278.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <91C0ED8A-CF51-4A85-BA29-3A0558C44F4A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1186296548.2075023.1716223484693@mail.yahoo.com>

 "And be sure to attach the fuel line before you mount them."
THIS!!  

There were some other bits of hard-won List wisdom when replacing the carb rack:- Loosen the air box and pull it back towards the tail for more wiggle room- Loosen the throttle cables for more slack- If your carb boots are still flexible enough, roll them back for more room (I also slid the springs down from the mouth of the collar down to the narrow part so they don't slip off or go flying)
Good luck!
CB in PA'95 GPZ
    On Monday, May 20, 2024 at 09:50:30 AM EDT, Paul Heim <pmheimjr at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 It will be a nice project getting them out and cleaning them. Have some special words ready for when you reinstall them. And be sure to attach the fuel line before you mount them. I wish you luck.
Sent from my iPad

> On May 20, 2024, at 7:24 AM, Alexander Finger <af at syd.de> wrote:
> 
> Thanks to all of you..my initial thought was "carbs" but as I have never worked on them..it'll be a nice weekend project, I guess 😲
> 
> Alex
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: GPZList <gpzlist-bounces at lists.micapeak.com> On Behalf Of Charles Scappaticci
> Sent: Montag, 20. Mai 2024 14:22
> To: Alexander Finger <af at syd.de>
> Subject: Re: She starts and dies
> 
> Alex,
> 
> It sounds like a set of gummed up carbs to me.  I would check as the others have mentioned, but if you don't find anything, it probably needs a carb cleaning, those pilot jets clog up easily after sitting a long time.
> 
> Charles Scappaticci
> 
>> On Sat, May 18, 2024 at 3:40 PM Alexander Finger <af at syd.de> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Oh Wisdom of the group
>> 
>> The geeper has been resting for a looooooooong time in the garage. I
>> hooked up the battery to a good charger so she started immediately.
>> Runs on choke, revs up, I pull out the choke, give a bit of throttle
>> and off she goes. Pattern repeats – she starts, revs up, choke out, a
>> bit of throttle – engine dies.
>> 
>> I added some fresh fuel, that made everything better but still,
>> without choke she goes off.
>> 
>> Any hints?
>> 
>> All the best
>> Alex
>> 
>> ______________________________________________________________________
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