The TL1000 has a self-diagnostic feature to troubleshoot problems with the fuel injection system. If there is a problem with the fuel injection system, the letters "FI" will appear in the coolant temperature LCD screen. The trouble codes can be accessed by using a jumper on the "dealer mode coupler", which is a white connector with a rubber cap on the right side of the bike, under the right frame cover. The wires are long enough that the connector can be routed into the storage area for easier access. This is the same connector used for throttle position sensor calibration. With a jumper wire in place, the trouble codes are as follows:
c00 No defect c11 Camshaft Position Sensor (CMP sensor) c12 Crankshaft Position Sensor (CKP sensor) c13 Intake Air Pressure Sensor (IAP sensor) *measures intake "air pressure", or engine vacuum* c14 Throttle Position Sensor (TP sensor) c15 Engine Coolant Temp. Sensor (ECT sensor) c21 Intake Air Temp. Sensor (IAT sensor) c22 Atmospheric Pressure Sensor (AP sensor) c23 Tip Over Sensor (TO sensor) c24 Ignition Signal (#1)(IG signal #1) *front cylinder* c25 Ignition Signal (#2)(IG signal #2) *rear cylinder* c31 Gear Position Signal (GP sensor) c32 Injector Signal (#1)(FI signal #1) *front cylinder* c33 Injector Signal (#2)(FI signal #2) *rear cylinder* c41 Fuel Pump Control System (FP control system) c42 Ignition Switch Signal (IG switch signal) Notes: The failure of the camshaft position sensor (c11) will allow the bike to run, but once engine stops, engine can not start. If the ECU receives a trouble code for the crankshaft position sensor, the bike will stop running and cannot be re-started until problem is corrected.
(Submitted by Brian Faulkner) [Index]
Greg S. (dantas@earthlink.net) writes on August 26th, 1997:Heres a reply I got from DynoJet Today... Besides the power increase, The fact that the bike would run like it is supposed to..ie..stumble free and smooth is worth the price of admission.
The Power Commander will retail for $349.95 and will be shipping in early September, 1997. For more information please contact Mike Cory at +1 (800) 992-4993.
Note also that Suzuki is offering a replacement ECU, as of Sept-1997.
(Submitted by Brian Faulkner) [Index]
The easiest and cheapest way to attempt to upgrade your brakes is by mounting aftermarket brake pads. Galfer's green-compound and EBC's HH-compound pads have good things said about them. You will need to give the pads a couple hundred miles to gently "bed-in", that is conform to the rotor surfaces and high-temp-cure on the bike.That said, motorcycle manufacturers take great pains to match brake-rotor material with the best pad composition. They want optimum performance plus reliability and longevity that won't generate warranty claims or lawsuits. Consider your chances of buying at random a better-than-factory pad material given such extensive testing. At least one TL lister (Roger Lamb) experienced warped rotors after mounting EBC pads. What is it worth to you to have the peace of mind that comes with stock pads?
Your second option will be aftermarket brake hoses; kevlar or braided stainless-steel. Goodridge has sold a lot of kevlar lines but Galfer is the hot new ticket and both have kits available in various colored lines and anodized fittings. Stainless lines are nice but be sure to buy a set with a vinyl covering and sealed ends. These too are sometimes available in colors. "Fast-Line" (available through White Bros.) is reasonably priced and good quality. "Race" systems (lines from calipers both directly to the master cylinder) are popular because they're easier to bleed but OEM-replica and longer-than-stock systems can be custom ordered.
The deluxe option is upgraded calipers, usually 6-piston double-action type. The 6-piston calipers from the '96-97 GSX-R750 bolt right up on the TL (Kawasaki used these same calipers on several models as well). These calipers obviously use different pads which you'll likely have to buy seperately at $26-89 per caliper. They also take a 5/8" (15.9mm) master cylinder. This larger master cylinder has 23% more area than the stock 14mm TL part giving less lever travel and better feel than the stock part would. Performance Machine (USA) and Harris (UK) both make aftermarket 6-piston calipers. Lockheed and Brembo both make various master cylinders but all these aftermarket options are very expensive. Even the Suzuki parts cost $900 new but you can find used ones from parts breakers or in the race classifieds. Be careful to avoid buying stolen parts; the people you keep in business might take your bike next.
If you choose all Suzuki parts, you'll have little to worry about.
Chris Denzler warns: "If you are considering replacing the brake lines with aftermarket lines, there are several configurations available. The stock configuration (one hose to the right caliper, and a hose running from the right caliper to the left) causes the *left* brake pads to wear more quickly than the right. I don't know why this happens (it doesn't seem like it should!) but it does. I'd recommend any symmetrical configuration of the lines over the stock setup."
(Submitted by Kai Tiffany) [Index]
So far, it appears that Suzuki is denying this problem exists.
Conjecture is that the cause is poor ring sealing
(possibly from an over-long break-in period)
allowing gasoline to
slip by the rings and into the crankcase.
Another more likely possibility is that the ECU leaves
the injector bodies pressurized when the ignition is turned off thus allowing
raw fuel to eventually leak into the cylinders.
Best advice is probably to change your oil more often than you ordinarily would.
On Sept 16th, 1997, Russ Parker
(russp@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
I spoke to the Suzuki TL specialist again today
here's the deal:
excessive combustion byproducts in the oil are caused by two major things
on the TL.
Greetings all from the land of OZ. I have discovered a couple of things
which may be of interest:
The fuel in oil syndrome can be avoided by the use of the fast idle lever
every time you start the bike not just when it's cold. Apparently the
bike tries to keep itself operational when the rpm drops below 300 by
flooding the cylinders with fuel. Unfortunately some of the older ECUs get
confused and dump the fuel when the bike is not even running. Turning the
fast idle to full BEFORE turning on the ignition stops this on most models.
I at first did not believe this but a few tests of my own proved this to be
the case. When starting the bike without the fast idle, oil level rises,
plugs get fouled, starting gets harder.
Seriously, your mileage will improve as the bike gets broken in. The ECU
upgrade and a careful and proper TPS adjustment will improve your mileage
significantly compared to the early shippment bikes. Expect to get in the
35mpg (40mpg British, 15km/liter) range, plus or minus, depending upon how you ride.
RE: mods to stock cans. I have modified mine, here's what I did:
Result: awesome throbbing duke sound.
P.S. I took both pipes off to do all this work.
A few others have reported the right side engine cover (the large round
one) sometimes weeps a bit of oil.
Conversation on the
TL List
suggests that machining a tiny bit
off the cover on the right hand side of the engine allows the rubber
O-ring to seal better and cures the problem. There was one report that
Suzuki in Europe was spec'ing a new, larger O-ring to the same effect.
Many feel that during the break-in period, at least, you should stay away
from synthetics because they are too good! Belief is that they
don't allow the rings to seat properly due to their superior lubrication.
An excellent resource to use to form your own opinion is
Ed Hackett's famous
writeup on motorcycle oils. Kai Tiffany has authored
another answer to this question which contains
further links to motorcycle oil information.
Some have reported using weatherstripping on the inside of the cover and
have not experienced paint damage with that technique.
The disconnect operation should be at the connector (housing both a "Pink"
and "Blue" wire) hidden under the right side of your TL. You'll probably
have to loosen the fairing on the right side to get to this connector, and it
is sometimes below the fresh air intake duct. Pull the connector apart, and
remove only the "Pink" wire coming from the transmission. It's OK to leave
it free, as there is no voltage present in this wire, only a ground
potential. Don't forget to reconnect the blue wire with the connector, as
it is your netural signal (ground) to the guages and CPU.
Mike Harris (mhr@stc.net) writes:
The easiest way to find the pink wire is to remove the 2 bolts holding
the right side cover on. Pull the cover out away from the frame, and
pull the ram air tube out of the airbox. You should be able to see a
black shiny vinyl sheath going to a white 2-pin connector almost
directly under where the ram air tube was. In the connector the correct
wire is obvious, it is very bright pink. Disconnect the plug and use
something like a paper clip or anything thin to push down on the tab
holding the contact in the plug. The contact should come out easily and
then simply tape it off to the connector.
More from American Suzuki's TL specialist:
Suzuki has learned from its dealer network that some people are modifying
their TLs by cutting the pink wire (gear position sensor lead). Suzuki
says this is a VERY BAD THING. Here's the deal:
The ECM uses this wire for fuel adjustments (which is why you guys are
playing with it). It can clean up fuel delivery in lower gears; however,
fuel delivery goes dangerously lean in upper gears. Hard riding, such as
sustained WOT in 4th, 5th, or 6th gear can cause severe engine damage.
Suzuki strongly recommends that the pink wire remain connected. The
new ECM
will correct any problems that might have been ameliorated by the
severing of this lead.
Some stands come with an adaptor for raising the front wheel instead.
Special stands are available for the front only, as well as the rear only.
I use the blue Suzuki-branded race stand (rear). There are many other brands
available. Many favor the Lockhart-Phillips stand as it is less expensive and some
claim easier to deploy by yourself. The Suzuki stand can be used without
someone to hold the bike for you, but if you slip or loose the bike's balance
then it's going to tip over!
Jim Brewer
(jjb@hpesjjb.fc.hp.com)
offers this idea for a cheap way to raise the rear wheel:
I went and got
a 3' long piece of 1/2" round steel stock and ran it through the swingarm
pivot hole. Then I put jackstands on either side of the bike to support
the round stock. This is very stable and keeps the CG ahead of the
support,
so the front end stays on the ground.
It also lists all of the special tools required and tolerance limits
i.e brake disk minimum thickness so checks can be done.
The manual is highly reccomended if you plan to do your own
maintainence.
The price for the manual is like any other motorcycle related
pricing, highly variable. Mine was about $50 through my dealer.
Suzuki part # 99500-39140-03E
Several of us have shimmed the clutch
springs with small washers, here's what I posted to the
TL List:
[The springs, BTW, I measured at 31mm (30.75 to 31.10) and they were about
18mm in diameter. There are 5 of them, and mine had a stripe of white
paint on them. The dealer didn't have a shop manual for it so he didn't
know what the 'official' length should be.]"
Current consensus seems to be that Suzuki may have incorrectly torqued
the clutch retaining nut during assembly
at about 75 ft.lbs. Rumor is that (at least
in Europe) there is a Suzuki bulletin stating that using 60 ft.lbs.
instead will likely cure any infrequent clutch slipping.
Percy Masiello
(masiello@wn.com.au) writes:
Suzuki Australia have cured clutch probs on my TL # 00062 with
'98 replacement part #
Gert-Jan Kamphof
(gkamphof@gak.nl) writes:
I also had a clutch problems, which were fixed a week ago. The clutch
package was made lager by placing three 2mm steel plates instead of two
and using heavier springs. The back-torque-limiter still works.
Several aftermarket steering dampers are available, using various
mounting schemes. Some mount above the top triple clamp, some below,
and a few use other mounts. I use a Works Enduro Rider unit which fits
neatly underneath the bottom triple clamp where it is out of sight yet
accessable for dampening adjustment. Scott (another dirt-bike
accessory maker) makes a similar unit which mounts above the top
triple clamp. Both units are pricy at $250-300 or more but reportedly
work very well.
At first, Suzuki (and some, but not all, Suzuki dealers)
seemed to deny there was a problem, then reversed
themselves and started offering 'upgraded' ECUs to those who complained.
There were apparently at least 3 revisions of the ECU, all of which
unfortunately had exactly the same markings on them so they couldn't be
distinguished visually.
It is believed that the ECU uses a potted EPROM which is not reprogrammable
without removing the EPROM itself. Thus it is not known what, exactly,
was done by Suzuki to the 'modified' ECUs. Speculation is that there is an
undocumented serial port connection which may allow modification of some
internal parameters which could affect the operation of the ECU.
In any case, many of us with low serial numbered TL1000S' (mine is 00136)
had their ECUs replaced under warranty and felt marked improvement in the
low speed running of their bikes. Some had the ECU replaced twice.
The ECU replacement, coupled with the
22-page Tuning Supplement procedures
seems to have reduced the problem to a mild annoyance. With the original
ECU in place, many TL owners reported their bikes stalling in traffic or
when making parking lot turns situations which on occasion resulted
in accidents or tip-overs.
In September of 1997, Suzuki sent letters to all registered TL owners in
the USA offering their appology and a 'new replacement ECU' which they say
will make the bike just about perfect ECU-wise and be much less sensitive
to drifting out of tune than were the original few revisions of the ECU.
(Submitted by H. Marc Lewis)
[Index]
Marc Alexander writes:
I'll give you the suspension settings I'm now on that work best for me
so far with the stock TL1000 and a rider who is 5'11" and 80kg. I'm
really enjoying being able to adjust everything and get it near perfect!
No slapping, twitchiness or anything...
Note that these settings are for my stock TL suspension, other stock
ones should be similar, but any modified ones will be different. I'm not
a real suspension guru! I'm just studying and
testing it, setting the rider weight sag around 30% of travel and been
testing different
changes. I'm writing all the changes down and retesting, to help study
it.
Don't think that the TL's suspension is at all _bad_!, I love mine and
it's
one of the best handling bikes I've ever ridden.
It's just that it can be turned into a bad handling bike, like most
late model bikes with fully adjustable suspension. The Suzuki
factory settings are not very nice, especially as they have too much
compression damping front and rear. Combine too much rear compression
damping with huge throttle response and rear weight bias and it
provokes twitchiness under power.
These settings worked well for me on the twisty, medium bumpy road,
but recently I took the TL to a racetrack ride day, and it really
highlighted the difference between a road with bumps and a fairly
smooth track. On the bumpier road, the stiffer and higher front
was needed to help soak up the bumps.
For the smoother track, the settings above were a bit too high
on the front, and didn't turn in as easily as I hoped.
The front end felt quite remote and too high in the corner.
The rear weight bias on the TL means it's best to get as much
weight on the front as possible.
I dropped the front preload and compression damping to get the
front lower, with really good effect. I went a bit
too far reducing the front compression damping, making it
bottom out too much under brakes, and then turned it back
to 1 1/2 out.
Near the end of each session, under power out of corners, the
rear end was moving around more as the rear rebound damping
went off, I expect from the heat of the pipe next to it, and
just being used. I turned that up too.
There's a real tradeoff with the soft fork springs on the TL,
I've found that the front compression damping needs to
be set just right to not make it too stiff, but still
prevent the forks from bottoming out under brakes too much.
Soon to come will be a fork revalve, and especially new
springs, but I'll make sure it's done without raising the
front any more than it is. If I have to, I'll raise the
forks further (to 5mm instead of 3mm) to compensate.
The result of all this is more neutral steering, a good reduction
in in the 'bump steer' that it had on the std. tyres. I noticed that
bumps and camber changes used to make the front end and bike try to
stand up. It's not totally gone, but much better. The rear end feels a
lot better, and not as vague as before, especially under power. It's no
more unstable or twitchy, either. I have the Suzuki steering damper
installed.
Now the preload is fixed, the rear feels great, and I'm happy with the
damper, except that it does get hot and go off a bit with hard use,
but most dampers do anyway.
A note of warning! The red paint on the spring is really easy to
scratch when you slide the unit out!!
I didn't have a good vice, or C spanner that fit on hand, so I held
it and used a soft alloy drift to tighten it. It took a while! Then I
discovered I could put a bar through the front shock mount, hold the
adjuster ring and rotate the top of the spring unit anticlockwise. This
'unscrewed' the top and raised the preload, a lot easier than drifting
it!
At least it's easier to back off the preload with a soft drift
while the unit's still in the bike.
Also:
If you need to change shims, take a good long look at the cam lobes and
timing marks on the cam sprockets before pulling the cams. On my TL, the
sprockets are installed incorrectly from the factory, so the timing marks
are 90 degrees off from the position specified in the service manual when
the front cylinder is at TDC compression.
After 1500 miles (you know what kind of miles. :-) the valves are
all at the tight side of spec. 2 intake valves are *tighter* than the
tight end of spec: 0.070mm and the minimum spec is 0.10mm.
What about gas in the oil?
This is a strange one. Many, if not most, of us have observed our oil levels
rising over time.
Upon draining, the oil is very thin, and often smells of gasoline.
One lister spent $135 having his oil chemically analyzed only to discover
that, indeed, it contained gasoline.
Neil Pearce (
pearcen@decaf.curtin.edu.au) writes:
Gas mileage
You'll never get 50 mpg. Live with it.
Modifying the Stock Exhaust
HamNeggs rhamond@xtra.co.nz
writes:
Oil weeping
I don't know much about this personally, as my TL doesn't have the
problem. It is reported in a small but significant number (4%) of TL
Registry entries, however, that oil sometimes leaks from a small drain
hole below the water pump. My TL doesn't seem to have a drain hole
there that I can find.
Oil: synthetic vs: petroleum
There has been quite some discussion on the
TL Mailing List
about this subject. Some swear by synthetics, some by pure petroleum based
oils. Concern that the clutch may slip with synthetics is lessened by the
many TL owners who use synthetics exclusively with success.
Pilion cover damages paint
The accessory "solo seat" cover that comes with all TL1000s will rub against
the paint when mounted in place of the passenger seat. Some claim the box
it comes in contains strips of clear plastic you can install to prevent this
paint damage. Brian says there should be 5 squares of clear plastic in
the pouch with the owner's manual.
Mine didn't come with anything like that, and my paint got damaged.
'Pink Wire' modification
You can try disconnecting the "Pink" wire, which
sends a varing ground in 1st, 2nd and
3rd gear to the CPU. This is to compensate for the ram air induction at speed.
It leans, and also I suspect, retards the ignition in the lower gears. It
won't fix the stumbles, but it helps the performance a little.
Warning!
On Sept 16th, 1997, Russ Parker
(russp@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
Do I need a race stand?
You do, since the TL1000 does not have a centerstand.
Oiling and adjusting the chain is a royal bitch without a so-called
"race stand" which is a device for supporting the rear of the
motorcycle with the rear wheel raised off the ground just a bit. With it, the
bike sits upright and is quite stable.
What about the Service Manual?
The service manual is a "how to" guide to servicing the TL.
It describes in detail (pictures and text) the step-by-step
procedures to perform any TL maintainence, from the simple
items covered in the owners manual like chain adjustment, to
things like how to perform electrcal system checks or how to
do a complete engine tear down and re-assembly.
Is there a slipping clutch problem?
Apparently there is, at least as of about June 1997 approximately
11% of the TL owners in the
TL1000 Registry
reported their clutches
slipping upon occasion.
The slip often occurs during an abrupt full throttle following a
deceleration which invokes the Sprag clutch effect. The RPMs jump
from about 4K to 7 or 8K where the clutch abruptly hooks up again.
Others have reported their clutches slip more regularly, as when
simply accelerating hard in the lower gears.
"
So, I ran down to Eagle Hardware and bought some washers: some stainless
steel ones in 1/4" and 5/16" which were about .040" thick, and some brass
ones labelled "#14L" which were .052" thick and almost exactly the same
thickness and diameter of the washers already on the spring retaining
bolts. [Gordon told me via personal email that he used .040" washers in his
TL's clutch.] We dipped all the plates in fresh oil, reassembled the
clutch using the .052" brass washers.
21610 02F00
.
This transformed the bike, the fault was incorrect ramp angles in the
clutch basket center hub allowing the engaging dogs to disengage
intermittantly.
The problem is most evident on TLs that are ridden hard.
What about sparkplugs?
Use NGK CR8EK plugs. Early production units were shipped with CR9EK plugs,
later production TL's came with the CR8EK's. There's more in the
Suzuki Tuning Information document...
What about steering dampers?
About 3 months after the TL's introduction, Suzuki issued a 'recall'
to install a steering damper. The Suzuki unit is non-adjustable, and
was apparently packaged to minimize the shop time required to install
it. Consequently, it uses the two gastank attachment bolts near the
steering stem and prevents the previously easy means of raising the
front of the gastank for servicing the parts underneath it.
What are "the Stumbles"?
The so-called "stumbles" are a problem of the 1997 TL1000S series,
particularly the low serial-numbered units. The problem is in the
ECU, or ECM the Engine Control computer
which, among other things, controls the electronic fuel injection (EFI).
The problems occur mainly at low RPMs (around 3,200) and make the bike
surge or stumble as though it were running out of fuel. The problem
did not affect all bikes equally some were horrible, and some
weren't bad. And of course some owners were more tolerant of the problem
than others.
Suspension adjustment suggestions
TL suspension issues:
Twisty, medium bumpy road setup:
Forks:
Compression 1 1/4 turns out
Rebound 5/8 of a turn out
Preload 4.5 lines showing
Also forks raised 3mm in clamps
Rear:
Compression 4 3/4 turns out
Rebound 2 3/4 turns out
Preload 177mm spring length
(10mm thread showing)
Smoother racetrack setup:
Forks:
Compression 1 1/2 turns out (reduced 1/4 turn)
Rebound 5/8 of a turn out
Preload 6 lines showing (reduced 1.5 lines)
Also forks raised 3mm in clamps
Rear:
Compression 4 3/4 turns out
Rebound 1 3/4 turns out (increased 1 turn)
Preload 177mm spring length
(10mm thread showing)
Rear Preload adjustment:
To adjust the spring unit(shock) preload you need to undo the
shock, and leave the linkage attached to it for removal. Undo the bolt
holding the shock at the front, the bolt holding the linkage to the
swingarm, then the top pivot linkage bolt next to the damper. Leave the
rear of the shock connected to the linkage. (The manual says to do it
this way) A bit of cursing and you can wiggle and slide the shock with
the linkage still attached out the rear between the tyre and muffler.
What is the TL1000 Registry?
The TL1000 Registry is an Internet resource where owners of TLs can
register their bikes and their comments about them. The Registry can be
sorted and viewed in various ways, and you can easily update your entry.
Passwords are used to insure nobody but you can change your entry. The
service is free. The URL is:
http://www.micapeak.com/TL1000/reg/
What is the TL1000 Mailing List?
The TL1000 Electronic Mailing list is an Internet resource where folks
interested in the Suzuki TL1000 model can communicate on a regular basis
through email. This free service is run by John Sweeney
(Webmaster of the
Sport-Twins website),
who also acts as the list administrator.
Directions for signing up (or signing off) are also available online.
The volume of email (as of Spring 1997) is about 24 messages per day.
What about TPS adjustments?
Brian Faulkner, in a labor of love,
transcribed the offical
Suzuki Tuning Information
document, a supplement
to the 1997 New Model Technical Update Seminar.
Valve Adjustment
When removing the valve cover (especially the front), be careful.
There are 2 locating pins at the top of the cover that may be fairly loose.
This is not really a problem until you remove the cover and one of the
pins comes loose, bounces off the inside of the cover, and straight into
the oil passage leading to the crankcase. It's a nice fit in the oil
passage too! If the unthinkable does happen, don't try to fish it out with
safety wire. That will push it farther down into the passage. I used some
very strong magnets (from an old 1 gig disk drive) stuck onto the
shaft of a long thin screwdriver. This will magnetize the screwdriver
enough to extract the locating pin.
can be submitted to
H. Marc Lewis via email.
Submissions are encouraged...
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