not good, bad, real bad

Robert Nelson majordad at
Mon Aug 20 10:37:07 PDT 2007

Actually, I checked to make sure I had shims in all the valves and had 5 of
the six bolts holding the valve covers in before I thought of the paper
towel.  But I did think of it on my own!  :)  Also, as I was putting the
lower back on I found the magnet I had lost yesterday stuck to the mounting
frame on the left hand side.  The bike even still runs.  :)

Someone else in an old thread had recommended a source for shims.  The web
site is: and for the
price of 3 to 4 shims from the dealer, which would have to be ordered, I am
getting 30 shims between 2.40 and 2.65 which covers the three sizes I need.
It is refill kit number HC-9240265 and with USPS Priority mail it is only
about $42.  It is supposed to ship today and I will get them faster that the
stealer would have them. 


-----Original Message-----
From: Marilyn Mason [mailto:masonjs at] 
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 12:11 PM
To: Robert Nelson; '1KPerDay'
Cc: gpzlist at
Subject: Re: not good, bad, real bad

Just remeber before you button the bike up to remove the paper towel.  I
recall Charlie Blum (Rest his soul) neglected this and had to tear down his
engine to remove the bits of toweling.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Nelson" <majordad at>
To: "'1KPerDay'" <1kperday at>
Cc: <gpzlist at>
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 11:52 AM
Subject: RE: not good, bad, real bad

> Ok, forget my last email because I am apparently even dumber than I
> After the response from 1KPerDay I decided to look through the shop manual
> to see what is involved with getting to the bottom of the cam chain.
> Imagine my dumbfounded expression as the light bulb goes on when I see
> the bottom of the cam chain is at the crankshaft where I have been
> the camshaft to TDC.  So, full of positive expectations I go out to the
> garage and look in there and the shim is setting right out in the open.
> Problem averted and information learned.
> Much relieved!
> Bob
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 1KPerDay [mailto:1kperday at]
> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 11:18 AM
> Cc: gpzlist at
> Subject: Re: not good, bad, real bad
> I've heard of some who removed the timing cover at the left of the
> engine and were lucky enough to find the dropped shim in there...
> dunno if it's possible on the GPz or not. Couldn't hurt to take it off
> and check...
> As for this: "I believe there is very little chance of the shim being
> a problem."
> I'm afraid I don't share your belief. ;)
> If you do decide to run the bike, I'd personally run it for a short
> time and then remove the oil pan (the whole oil pan) and hope you find
> the shim somewhere in there. Again, you could get lucky.
> On 8/20/07, Robert Nelson <majordad at> wrote:
> > I don't believe that there is any other way to open up that area other
> than
> > pulling the head which seems awfully drastic.  I have turned the
> crankshaft
> > and never heard any more sounds so I believe there is very little chance
> of
> > the shim being a problem.  But I figured it would not hurt to ask if
> anyone
> > else has had this problem and had any issues.  Any thoughts, besides
> calling
> > me an idiot, are appreciated.  Thanks!
> >
> -- 
> Utah Jeff
> '96 SheePz1100

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