Idiot Season

Rob Schwartz coldinvt at
Tue Apr 15 19:51:42 PDT 2008

Amen, Steve.  Why can't we all just get along?  America needs to learn
highway courtesy, that's really what's up.  If everybody didn't
drive/ride/run/walk/whateverthefuck like they owned the
road/sidewalk/hallway/whereverthefuck, the roads would be much safer.

1. Communicate your intentions - Brake lights and TURN SIGNALS.
2. Keep right except while passing.
3. Yield to the guy on the right.

Wouldn't that be nice?


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Northrop [mailto:blackgpz at]
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: Idiot Season

First of all, I'm not an uneducated redneck. So the crux of your argument is
since a bicyclist has rights and pays taxes, they don't have to be
responsible or courteous. Makes sense to me. That's the same BS you hear
from every bicyclist, they need a new line. Just like "loud pipes save
lives" and "helmets cause neck injuries", you get tired of the stupidity. A
bicyclist has no right to obstruct traffic on their bike just like I have no
right to on my MC or in my truck. I can't drive down the middle of the
interstate at 15mph because I got rights and pay taxes. This cannot be
defended. If you're not one of those that ride in this manner, god bless ya.
If you are, learn something here. Anything that poses a threat to us as
motorcyclists is fair game for discussion here. Some bicyclists are and need
to learn some manners to go with their "rights".

Steve in Western NY
'96 GPZ1100
'02 Daytona 955i
'08 KLR 650
"You Can't Fix Stupid", Ron White

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jay Loeppke" <jloeppke at>
To: "GPZ LIST" <gpzlist at>
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: Idiot Season

> Will I guess I have to speak up.  I am one of those special morons you
> refer to.  I have found lots of good  help for my 95 Gpz on this blog  but
> this is not constructive  criticism worthy  of this site.  It  sounds like
> a bunch of not well educated red necks talking.
> I ride my bicycle 3-5K a year. Obviously for great fitness but also  the
> two "bikes" really work together.  I am 50, and what I mean by  working
> together particularly as I get older   is that the fitness on  the bike
> allows me to ride long distances with less fatigue (ridding  position is
> similar for the two), balance is enhanced,  spacial  awareness is
> heightened, my concentration is better  and I am very  aware of the
> traffic around me ( bicycling is far worse than  motorcycles, way more
> close calls, cars do not see you at all, they  look right through you,
> they don't expect a bicycle to be coming at  you at 25-30 mph).
> The majority of the road bikers are also tax payers, with cars,
> motorcycles, etc. They paid for  the same road as you.   As in most
> states,  Mn. bicyclists have the same right and have to obey the same
> rules as any other motorized vehicle.  So they have every right to be
> there, the same as you.   They can drive right down the middle of  their
> lane if they are so foolish to do so. Though it would be to  their health
> benefit to ride to the side.  Bike paths a great for  casual riders,
> family, kids, ect.  But when your going out for a long  serious workout
> ride (30-100 miles) the rare bike path just doesn't  cut it.
> I challenge you to pick up a bicycle and try it.    You will see how
> great they work together.  You will be a much better/safer motorcyclist.
> Interestingly have been watching the KLR come up in the discussions.    I
> have been looking for the right one (wrecked) so I can fix it the  way I
> want. I  would love to do the great divide trail
> Any body interested?
> On Apr 15, 2008, at 10:24 AM, 1KPerDay wrote:
>> bicyclists are a special breed of moron. No offense meant to any
>> here... some of my best friends are cyclists. Not that there's
>> anything wrong with that. etc. :D
>> Some of the best roads here are frequently choked with herds of
>> slow-moving, selfish 2-wheelers like bicyclists and harley riders and
>> goldwingers. LOL
>> At least the harleys and goldwings pay road/use taxes... cyclists just
>> FEEL entitled. Skinny bastards.
>> On 4/15/08, scapco at <scapco at> wrote:
>>> Well, it looks like idiot season is upon us here in
>>> Denver.  I had my first "close encounter" yesterday on the
>>> way home from work with an idiot on a bicycle.
>> --
>> Utah Jeff
>> '96 SheePz1100

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